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PeteRRRay Lemoine
8/24/15 9:44am
Spending a week spent with the insurgents last month, I came to agree with my Russian friend. Their cause is legitimate.

Another useful idiot from the West. Your buddies with a “legitimate” cause shot down a goddamn civilian airliner, killing everybody on board. Their patron invaded Crimea, a piece of a sovereign country, against the will of the majority of the people who live there.

Russia is a leper nation that infects its neighbors with corruption, conflict, and death.
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  ArdenPeteRR
  8/24/15 10:08am
  Let’s not really be too quick to play the “blowing up a civilian airliner and then never really apologizing for it is BAD” card. They learned from the best.
  
  The rest of your your points are legitimate.
  
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldview…
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  PNW20vPeteRR
  8/24/15 10:50am
  “Another useful idiot from the West.”
  
  Oh look, a hateful person from the East... name calling really gets your point across.
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Sir VivorRay Lemoine
8/24/15 10:17am
“We just want this land, they can have theirs.”

Said a Russian to the fool.

If you want to be a part of Russia, by all means move in there. If you want to have a beach vacation, get yourself a passport instead of invading parts of other countries.

Russia should be exiled from everything international. Perhaps then they’d see that they have no enemies besides Kreml because nobody gave a shit of their failing little paradise. Puppet-war in Ukraine is a huge bloody no-no and should be dealt as such. For a moment Russia seemed to do okay but I guess screwing things up is in their genes. And that too is somebody else’s fault.
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  KagePSir Vivor
  8/24/15 11:17am
  What about Iraq/Afghan invasions? What should we be exiled from?
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  Sir VivorKageP
  8/24/15 11:32am
  That’s a separate topic, but nice try.
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BigmouthRay Lemoine
8/24/15 9:42am
It’s “secession,” not “succession,” and it’s the world, not just the U.S., that’s skeptical their cause is just.
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  StenchofaburnerBigmouth
  8/24/15 9:48am
  For real. In conflicts of this kind, I am always skeptical of occupiers claiming to be just. If you are occupying someone else’s territory, do not be shocked when the locals attempt to kick your ass. Putin’s Russia acts like a modern, hostile empire (including the part where local dissidents are crushed and minorities of any kind are persecuted in the name of national pride).
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  JimBigmouth
  8/24/15 11:15am
  Igor Girkin has not only publicly admitted to forcing the Crimean MPs to vote for Russian annexation, but also that he and his Russian forces were responsible for taking over buildings in Donbas. There it is - this is all a Russian provocation, incited by Russian GRU and fostered by non-stop Russian propaganda against Ukraine in their media. There is no civil war. As the article above states, — “the Russian vaguely stated. ‘We just want this land, they can have theirs.’” Seriously, “we just want this land”??? Sorry, but “this land” is part of Ukraine as was agreed upon by Russia in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, in which Russia pledged to honor Ukrainian sovereignty and borders.
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opiumsmabytchRay Lemoine
8/24/15 9:45am
The Ukrainians provided pickles as a chaser

First thought: And this is my Eastern European background coming through: I wonder if the pickles were home made and how much garlic they used.
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  knigaopiumsmabytch
  8/24/15 3:40pm
  I am sure Ukrainians still know how to make pickled dills, fish, etc. Salo is almost like a national dish over there.
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  opiumsmabytchkniga
  8/24/15 3:52pm
  Oh no doubt.
  
  Just sometimes in a war zone finding the time to boil a shit load of vinegar may not be the easiest thing.
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AirBearStareRay Lemoine
8/24/15 9:52am
If a vast majority of these citizens did not want to be a part of Ukraine, they should have separated themselves from the region in the right way by holding an independence referendum free of violent conflict. You didnt see the US condemning Scotland
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  itgottogo21AirBearStare
  8/24/15 9:57am
  They would condemned if it happened after the French invaded in support of Scotish seperatist.
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  tvotr7AirBearStare
  8/24/15 10:25am
  Yea, like Ukraine was going to grant them a referendum vote. how naive are you?
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DennyCraneRay Lemoine
8/24/15 10:25am
Spending a week spent with the insurgents last month, I came to agree with my Russian friend. Their cause is legitimate.

I’m sorry, but if you’re going to make a statement like that you need to explain it better than you do here.
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PhlegminglibRay Lemoine
8/24/15 10:24am
If they love mother Russia so much why not just pack up and move there?
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A House In VirginiaRay Lemoine
8/24/15 1:16pm
My feeling is a lot of Americans would be nicer to Russia if they stopped being so GDMFing homophobic and blaming The Gay on “Western Excess.”
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Emily_8361Ray Lemoine
8/24/15 9:55am
How you see their cause as legitimate? They, with Putin’s support (even though Russia’s economy is collapsing), invaded a sovereign country.
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itgottogo21Ray Lemoine
8/24/15 9:52am
Saying that there “Their cause is legitimate. They want autonomy from Kiev.” but not independence isn’t a reasonable argument from the author of this piece. The separatist want the right the right form there own foreign policy with Russia and the rest of the world. An independent foreign policy is independence in all but name.
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