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    bassoonladyKelly Faircloth
    8/10/15 9:17am

    “You wouldn’t accept a history class not being historically accurate”

    I mean, yeah you would hope that was the case, but I think there are plenty of examples showing the opposite.

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      Tom Waits's Old Hatbassoonlady
      8/10/15 9:23am

      And I would totally accept a class teaching that Prince founded America in 1984. I was born in 1985, so Prince’s America is the only one I have ever known.

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      Yoga Nerd, Maybe Deadbassoonlady
      8/10/15 9:27am

      For example, AP American History: Now with more American Exceptionalism!!™

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    AcesNinesKelly Faircloth
    8/10/15 9:25am

    I have a nasty feeling that the abstinence only states have a lot of conversations like this:

    “How do I not have a kid?”

    “Don’t have sex! It’s immoral!”

    “Hey, I’m pregnant now, can I have some help?”

    “Fuck you, we don’t give education OR handouts!”

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      wafflesfriendsworkAcesNines
      8/10/15 9:34am

      that’s about right

      I grew up in KY, and we did have more than abstinence-only sex ed, but the underlying theme was pretty much: here are a bunch of scary STDs you could use a condom but maybe you should just not have sex anyway how about that

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      Mary SueAcesNines
      8/10/15 9:57am

      “....programs comparing girls who’ve had sex to used tape, chewed up gum, and stinky old shoes.”

      Now THAT'S objectification of women- reducing us to damaged goods or objects that lose our value the more we're touched or penetrated, instead of treating us like human beings. And it's a mentality that's been responsible for the abuse and oppression of women and girls worldwide for thousands of years. Hanne Blank's Virgin book is pretty informative on some of the horrific things that have been done to women and girls who allegedly 'lowered their value' by having sex and the way women and girls have been treated due to the worship of 'sexual purity'.

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    PeachesKelly Faircloth
    8/10/15 9:21am

    Exceptional!

    I had the best sex ed ever in catholic school. Knowledge, and lots of it, makes making solid decisions much simpler.

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      Charlotte29 aka Rob KPeaches
      8/10/15 9:29am

      Really? I had the WORST sex ed ever in Catholic school. I will never forget the day a pro-life speaker came to talk to us and told us that the condom industry created holes for “breathability” in their products that were big enough for sperm and STDs to get through.

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      stressedhampsterinhamperCharlotte29 aka Rob K
      8/10/15 9:43am

      I missed sex Ed entirely. The baptist school I went to didn’t teach until 10th grade and it was a “Marriage Preparedness.” I switched to a Lutheran school in 6th grade. They had Sex Ed in 5th grade so other than football coach telling the girls not to be whores in 10th grade health class, I completely ignorant. I thought oral sex was talking about it and lesbian was a nationality (like from Lithuania). I was an idiot and am grateful for trashy romance novels as they were more informative than my peers.

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    thetallblonde loves twinjaKelly Faircloth
    8/10/15 9:29am

    i heard pam stenzel speak as a teen. hot damn she fucked me up. sex was traumatic for me for a long time.

    BUT

    i grew up and got over it and am now making up for lost time!!!

    she should not be given a platform and should not be making her living in this method. shameful.

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      Ghiradelli's Dark Chocolate with Roasted Almonds and Sea Saltthetallblonde loves twinja
      8/10/15 11:27am

      Holy shit, she came to my kids’ school (private, so she only spoke to the upper school kids) and I about had a fit. My husband is the chaplain there, but I’ve already warned him that if she comes back I am standing in the audience and asking questions, clarifying information, etc. I have an MPH and give zero fucking fucks anymore.

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      thetallblonde loves twinjaGhiradelli's Dark Chocolate with Roasted Almonds and Sea Salt
      8/10/15 11:33am

      i think (it’s been so long i can’t remember) but i THINK i saw her at an acquire the fire event YEARS and years ago. remember those? they’re like little mini conservative christian conventions for teens and tweens? and ACK i remember at the time thinking “YES YES i DO give away a part of my heart every time i kiss someone new YES” and hot damn it did a number on me. unbelievable.

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    XofKelly Faircloth
    8/10/15 9:27am

    Hey now this is America, where we abstain from all forms of education.

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      GELLA - LLAPXof
      8/10/15 9:31am

      We don’t need no education
      We don’t need no thought control
      No dark sarcasm in the classroom
      Teachers leave them kids alone
      Hey teacher leave them kids alone
      All in all it’s just another brick in the wall
      All in all you’re just another brick in the wall

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      Jurassic PorkerXof
      8/10/15 9:47am

      Hallelujah!

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    SeeKateTryNotToRunOffACliffKelly Faircloth
    8/10/15 1:12pm

    I teach in a middle school. Not sure what the kids in my district get in 4th & 5th grade, but during 8th grade, the kids get a 2 week unit on sex ed in their science class. When that unit starts, we get an email from admin warning us to be aware of any conversations regarding sex ed that are happening outside of class. Apparently the kids are instructed to take a “Stays in Vegas” mentality about all of their class discussions. I feel like the email implies I should write referrals for kids who are discussing sex outside of this class unit.

    It is completely bizarre and disturbing that this unit is guarded so closely. How can you expect a group of 13 and 14 year olds to NOT talk about sex after they spent 2 weeks on it? Isn’t it better for us to encourage the kids to ask questions? And talk about sex, so it becomes a normal topic and not some giant, mysterious taboo. It seems to me when we cloak sex in shame, that’s when bad shit, like date rape and teen pregnancy starts happening.

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      Ear FurnishingsSeeKateTryNotToRunOffACliff
      8/10/15 1:52pm

      I feel ya. I’m a high school English teacher, but I used to start my classes with a brief overview of the big national and international headlines as of that morning because my students will be eligible to vote before they leave me, but they rarely read anything deeper than Twitter. I was asked to stop this practice because, apparently, students were tuning into my little run down, heading out into the halls afterward, and *GASP* discussing the events I mentioned amongst themselves and sometimes the conversations got heated (no violence or yelling, just the occasional raised voice). God freaking forbid kids have opinions/want to talk about things that are important with their peers

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      fortheloveofbeetsSeeKateTryNotToRunOffACliff
      8/10/15 2:09pm

      Whaaaa? Is the idea “if you hear any kids talking about SEX, write them up immediately!” or more like “FYI, if you hear kids discussing sex, it’s because we’re doing this unit, and also please keep your eyes peeled for kids spreading misinformation or anything that should set off alarm bells as far as students engaging in unsafe behavior, harassment, etc.”?

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    LaChavalinaKelly Faircloth
    8/10/15 9:42am

    The video that showed the girl saying “no” to her boyfriend, then she had to do it again because it apparently doesn’t count unless you say “no” forcefully? The company that made that video and any school that uses it should be sued out of existence. It borders on criminal negligence and if this is what kids are still learning in 2015, it’s no wonder we have a sexual assault problem when these kids hit young adulthood.

    Also, the Elizabeth Smart clip was heartbreaking.

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      fortheloveofbeetsLaChavalina
      8/10/15 2:12pm

      ALSO. The idea that girls alone have moral duty as sexual gatekeepers. Boys, of course, are hormonal, and can’t be held responsible for pressuring their female peers into sex. (Also, boys don’t get “used up” like pieces of tape or gum like girls do because ... something.)

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    Tequila MockingbirdKelly Faircloth
    8/10/15 9:53am

    I’mma bout to buy as many copies of “Changing Bodies, Changing Lives” as I can afford and start leaving them outside religious schools and fundamentalist churches...like the Gideons do with bibles in motels.

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      fortheloveofbeetsTequila Mockingbird
      8/10/15 2:04pm

      Also, the Guide to Getting It On!

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    Jurassic PorkerKelly Faircloth
    8/10/15 9:51am

    I would like to take this moment to enthusiastically thank my sex ed instructor for teaching me that I don’t pee out of my clitoris.

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      CassiopeiaSDKelly Faircloth
      8/10/15 1:34pm

      “Sex is like boxing. If both people didn’t agree to it, one of them is committing a crime.”

      Can I get this on a bumper sticker?

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        MsMymlanCassiopeiaSD
        8/10/15 4:31pm

        “Just because you saw someone boxing earlier with another person doesn’t mean they will want to box with you/you can just hit them.” “Just because someone is a professional boxer you can’t hit them in the face whenever you will.” (now I have visions of some douchebag trying that with Wladimir Klitschko)

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        CassiopeiaSDMsMymlan
        8/10/15 5:22pm

        “Just because you think they were asking for it doesn’t mean you didn’t just commit a crime.” So many parallels!

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