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    GemmabetaRachel Vorona Cote
    8/03/15 11:20pm

    “She didn’t want Lilly to learn about black history,” he said, “She just wanted her to learn about the Confederacy.”

    I didn’t realize the top image was a stock photo and was very confused for a second there.

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      kangararaGemmabeta
      8/03/15 11:22pm

      I was just coming here to say that - this is some poor photo selection.

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      deerlady83Gemmabeta
      8/03/15 11:26pm

      I was very confused by the picture, too.

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    The Ghost of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ AKA BabyStepsRachel Vorona Cote
    8/03/15 11:27pm

    What kind of fucked-up bullshit did I just read? 1) running from vaccinations! 2) homeschooling! 3) Exerting parental control to teach your child only about the confederacy?

    The most American of American stories of the week thus far: Racism, CHECK! Anti-Science, CHECK! Anti-Vax, CHECK! Florida, CHECK! Crime, CHECK! The CRAZY, CHECK! Yes, the most American story of the week for sure!

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      MsAdventureThe Ghost of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ AKA BabySteps
      8/03/15 11:38pm

      Donald Trump accepts your challenge.

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      The Ghost of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ AKA BabyStepsMsAdventure
      8/03/15 11:39pm

      OH JESUS! Now you have scared me!

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    hecticglowRachel Vorona Cote
    8/03/15 11:33pm

    This is going to be long, because I have a lot of pent up feelings.

    I try really, really hard to be calm and reasonable when talking to people about vaccines. I try to assume that the people I’m talking to are genuinely on the fence and respond better to sincerity rather than sarcasm. But right now, I’m really pissed at all of the crap that people are pulling because they can’t distinguish good science from scare tactics. So I have two words for the anti-vaxxers.

    Fuck you.

    You keep talking about kids you claim are damaged by vaccines. What about those damaged by the diseases those vaccines are designed to prevent? I’m fortunate that I didn’t grow up in a time where vaccines for diseases like polio and measles weren’t available. But I was around before the vaccines for rotavirus and chickenpox were available. Most people don’t think of those as dangerous infections, but rotavirus left me so dehydrated my veins collapsed and the ER nurses had to start an IV in my leg to get fluids in me. I had non stop diarrhea and vomiting that nearly choked me several times. Fortunately I don’t remember any of that because I blacked out shortly after the symptoms started and didn’t really wake up for a week.

    Just over a year later I was back in the hospital with complications from chickenpox. Thanks to the infection, my immune system was in overdrive and started destroying all of my platelets, leaving me covered in what looked like a rash but was actually blood leaking from my capillaries and pooling under my skin. I was fully aware this time and became so terrified of having my fingers pricked to collect blood that the nurses would sometimes take the bandage off another finger and squeeze some out of a wound that wasn’t clotting anyways. I wasn’t infectious, but I couldn’t run around and play because a large enough bruise could have caused me bleed to death internally. Then to add insult to injury several years later I found out that a batch of IVIG they’d used to treat me was contaminated with Hepatitis C. I was fortunate not to be infected myself, but there were others that weren’t so lucky.

    So it’s from personal experience of these things that I stand in complete and utter disbelief of your acceptance of ideas soundly disproven my mountains of evidence and your unwillingness to protect children, your own or otherwise. If you want to reject the best preventative treatments modern medicine has to offer, then you don’t deserve to participate in modern society. It wasn’t anti-vaccine bullshit that eliminated smallpox and pushed polio to the brink of extinction, but it did allow measles to come roaring back in the US. I don’t think any of you really understand the consequences of your decisions which is why when the first cases of SSPE from these measles outbreaks start cropping up, I’m volunteering you to take care of the victims.

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      MsAdventurehecticglow
      8/03/15 11:42pm

      Holy crap, that’s a rough go of a childhood. Yep, yep, vaccines for everyone (except those with legitimate medical reasons for not getting them)!

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      Haute Messhecticglow
      8/04/15 12:13am

      I was injured last year by the flu vaccine, and I still believe in vaccinating. Because vaccine injuries are rare. There is no such thing as zero risk. Just being alive is a risk. And I would rather take that risk - and it suuuuuuucks - than risk dying from a preventable disease. Maybe I can grasp risk communication easier despite what I have been through because I have my Masters in Public Health. And these anti-vaxxers infuriate me with their second hand facts about vaccine related injuries - what pain and diseases have they endured or watched a loved one endure?????

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    dumbledoresgirlRachel Vorona Cote
    8/03/15 11:23pm
    GIF

    As always...

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      randilyndumbledoresgirl
      8/03/15 11:28pm

      Hey now. #NotallFloridians.

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      randilyndumbledoresgirl
      8/03/15 11:30pm

      Also, with our propensity for “dangling chads” the whole state wouldn’t come loose anyhow.

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    JuneBugRachel Vorona Cote
    8/03/15 11:27pm

    Yeah, I’m pretty sure the civil war talk doesn't happen in pre-K. But I didn't go to pre-K so I could be wrong.

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      DontBeSuchaBoobPunchTinaJuneBug
      8/03/15 11:59pm

      Trying to think back... I remember naptime, playtime, and drawing around our hands to make Thanksgiving turkeys. Also that I was the only kid there who was already reading.

      Yep, pretty sure there were no history lessons!

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      JuneBugDontBeSuchaBoobPunchTina
      8/04/15 12:12am

      Oh but clearly you could get yourself into trouble by reading things on your own. For shame.

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    Supernova: Bullshit JediRachel Vorona Cote
    8/03/15 11:30pm

    So... I can force the hot guy who works at the gas station into my car next time I fill up and say it’s for deeply held personal belief type reasons? Is that something I can do? Yes? No? Anyone?

    I’m taking your silence as a go ahead.

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      kurt killed courtneySupernova: Bullshit Jedi
      8/03/15 11:33pm

      i have my eye on the hot guy who works at the liquor store.

      shall we just make this a thing? the service industry is so vast, and there are so many hot guys to kidnap

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      courtSupernova: Bullshit Jedi
      8/03/15 11:33pm

      Acceptable.

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    KateFromIowaRachel Vorona Cote
    8/03/15 11:20pm

    Florida. Land of flowers. Predictably completely covered in shit. Wierd shit.

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      randilynKateFromIowa
      8/03/15 11:29pm

      At least we know how to spell “weird” right.

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      hockygrrl4 aka DuckPoolrandilyn
      8/03/15 11:36pm

      My password to get books from the college bookstore included a misspelled word. The word? Genius. I misspelled “genius”. As a password. To a college bookstore.

      And since I have zero shame at all I share this story far and wide as an amusing thing rather than as proof that I should have deep, everlasting guilt and that my head should be slung low at all times.

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    Yoga Nerd, Maybe DeadRachel Vorona Cote
    8/04/15 7:18am

    Guys, what’s happening here? Is this some fancy kind of PPD-delivering pen? I honestly have no idea. But, FYI, this isn’t a photo vaccination administration.

    With this comment, I feel like I’ve addressed the most salient point of this article, obviously.

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      eugene levy's eyebrowsYoga Nerd, Maybe Dead
      8/04/15 7:42am

      What would you know about that? You’re not a real doctor!

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      Yoga Nerd, Maybe Deadeugene levy's eyebrows
      8/04/15 7:46am

      That’s how I know! Fake doctors are experts in fake vaccines!

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    LasEstrellasRachel Vorona Cote
    8/03/15 11:21pm

    Geez, I'm glad that father seems to have a modicum of common sense. Here's to hoping Lilly thrives in his care.

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      PortraitOfMmeXLasEstrellas
      8/04/15 12:01am

      Well, he clearly didn't have enough sense to not have a baby with a crazy person, but he does seem the saner of the two.

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      deerlady83PortraitOfMmeX
      8/04/15 1:05am

      I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he didn’t see until it was too late.

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    randilynRachel Vorona Cote
    8/03/15 11:26pm

    I didn’t realize it was a two for one offer: Vaccinating and brainwashing. Florida is known for it’s coupon clipping early bird mentality so I guess someone never got the memo about loving a bargain. It’s a shame the mother wasn’t vaccinated for “Stupid”. Put the “duh” in Florida.

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      deerlady83randilyn
      8/04/15 12:30am

      Vaccines has evil chemicals that eats your brain. Duh. /S

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      HermionePondrandilyn
      8/04/15 11:22am

      Florida is known for it’s coupon clipping early bird mentality

      I see you’ve met my Nana.

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