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    JujyMonkey: Clever tagline goes hereAnna Merlan
    8/03/15 12:32pm

    While I appreciate her doing this, I find it curious that Chris Nolan wasn’t put in an uncomfortable position similar to this after the Aurora shooting during DKR.

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      deerlady83JujyMonkey: Clever tagline goes here
      8/03/15 12:33pm

      Maybe it's because there have been a lot more shootings and the climate is different now.

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      GinAndTonic Got Stuck in the Barneydeerlady83
      8/03/15 12:37pm

      I don’t think so.

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    GinAndTonic Got Stuck in the BarneyAnna Merlan
    8/03/15 12:37pm

    I’d love to see more than enhanced background checks.

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      SqarrGinAndTonic Got Stuck in the Barney
      8/03/15 12:40pm

      It’s a half-falling-off Bandaid for a severed limb.

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      andsmokeit is mrs tormund giantsbaneGinAndTonic Got Stuck in the Barney
      8/03/15 12:44pm

      enhanced background checks & mandatory use & safety training

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    Backyard Milk & HoneyAnna Merlan
    8/03/15 12:28pm

    and immediately cue gun fanatics calling for her to be shot. jesus, i just can’t even with this country most of the time.

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      SqarrBackyard Milk & Honey
      8/03/15 12:34pm

      Immediately.

      I’m pretty sure some of them started saying that shit the minute news broke of the shooting.

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      batbogeyhexBackyard Milk & Honey
      8/03/15 12:39pm

      I work with a good friend of the Buzzfeed editor who tweeted “don’t pray. Push for gun reform.”

      Within hours, all of her credit cards and her debit card had been hacked and the perpetrators were wrecking her finances.

      These people fight dirty.

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    Slut PanicAnna Merlan
    8/03/15 12:37pm

    I wish they would stop blaming these shootings on mental health. It’s much more likely that someone with mental health issues will be attacked than someone with mental health issue will attack someone.

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      FrolickingGiantSlut Panic
      8/03/15 12:41pm

      I know. I don’t know what the answer is. But all the mental health stuff does make me nervous. More stigma is not the answer...

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      TheHumanHumanSlut Panic
      8/03/15 12:43pm

      While that’s true, I believe it is also the case that a mentally ill person is more likely to commit a shooting than a non-mentally ill person (though hindsight bias might play a factor there).

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    fnsfsnrAnna Merlan
    8/03/15 12:32pm

    I know I am totally missing the point of this very important and serious post, but - CHUCK SCHUMER AND AMY SCHUMER ARE COUSINS???

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      SocialJusticeWarriorPrincessfnsfsnr
      8/03/15 12:35pm

      That’s EXACTLY what I was thinking.

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      FrolickingGiantfnsfsnr
      8/03/15 12:37pm

      I feel similarly!

      But also good for you (apparently related) Schumers!

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    I made a pigeonratAnna Merlan
    8/03/15 12:37pm

    So the new normal is to get death threats when you do something decent? That’s nice

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      SqarrI made a pigeonrat
      8/03/15 12:41pm

      It’s been normal for women to get death threats for breathing.

      Fucking SJWs. Taking up Earth’s limited air supply.

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      batbogeyhexSqarr
      8/03/15 12:47pm

      It makes me wonder how often people are threatened with murder. It seems so common for public people and celebrities that everyone is blase about it. But maybe that’s the best way to portray your feelings, publicly. (Cue the scene from Veronica Guerin, when the drug lord she’s visited — at his own house — cracks her in the face and then has her killed.)

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    motherofgoatsAnna Merlan
    8/03/15 12:36pm

    The fact that she put forward a possible solution, instead of just talking about the problem, makes me respect her so much more. These are concrete ideas that truly qualify as a solid, safe middle ground.

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      anacanapanamotherofgoats
      8/03/15 12:40pm

      These are concrete ideas that truly qualify as a solid, safe middle ground.

      Which the NRA will still treat as if it’s calling for Hitler to be cloned into an army of gun-confiscating agents.

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      DashleyinCalianacanapana
      8/03/15 12:48pm

      ...all while 80%+ of their membership wants stricter background checks.

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    HarvestMoonAnna Merlan
    8/03/15 12:59pm

    Daileda also reports that Amy Schumer said she fully expects to receive death threats as a result of her comments on gun violence.

    It’s hard to take a stand when the other side is crazy - and well armed.

    I attended a gun law panel right after the shooting at Sandy Hook. Scariest day of my life. I expected adult discourse but what greeted me with lots of guys with threatening T-shirts videotaping those who dare to speak up for the sensible laws. Some were truly unhinged, like the guy screaming about losing his gun permit when his girlfriend had a restraining order against him. Or the father was so angry that he wasn’t allowed to bring guns into his kids school basketball games. I live in a deep blue state did not expect this element existed in the population.

    Thank you, Schumers!

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      miffyatthemuseumAnna Merlan
      8/03/15 12:36pm

      There was a story here the other day where Amy responded to a comment by saying she had something in the works. Good for her for waiting and teaming up with someone who could do something substantial. This is so much more effective than just releasing a statement. I know that every time there is a shooting some politician comes out saying they are going to push for stricter laws and nothing seems to get accomplished, but maybe the 100th time is the charm (give or take). This seems like a resonable first step.

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        CharitybAnna Merlan
        8/03/15 12:36pm

        For some reason I never really put together that they were related.

        Gun control aside, the mental health aspect of this issue is very tricky. On one hand, it is horrifying that someone with the gunman’s background and profile can just walk into a pawnshop and pick up a gun without triggering any kind of red flag. On the other hand, making it easier to restrict someone’s civil liberties because they report having a mental illness will only discourage people from coming forward.

        Involuntary civil commitment sounds like a good solution on paper but in most states you can only hold someone for a few days (3 to 5), and it’s not always easy to get a judge to extend the time someone can be involuntarily committed. It’s a tough area and hopefully Schumer’s message and suggestions can help move this forward.

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          KaizykatCharityb
          8/03/15 1:38pm

          Involuntary commitment is a tricky thing to begin with. An acquaintance of mine was just Baker Acted (involuntary commitment reported by a third party) because they had a minor breakdown with suicidal ideation. They did not consent to emergency treatment, but because they were deemed a danger to themself, they were taken and transported to the hospital.

          They ended up losing an internship, being forced out of their job (because the company now saw them as a liability), and are stuck with a several thousand dollar hospital bill.

          I’ve been threatened with the Baker Act before by people who just wanted me to “act normal”. So, I’m not the most keen on it to begin with.

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          CharitybKaizykat
          8/03/15 2:46pm

          And that’s the other, other side of the issue that I glided over. The focus on mental health when it comes to mass shootings is problematic enough — the mentally ill are not really the main sources of violence in society and are more likely to be victims than victimizers.

          But whenever a mentally ill person does commit a violent act we start talking about different preventive measures that we could have taken to keep them off the streets and away from firearms and explosives, but policies that would make it possible to really do that are fairly easy to abuse.

          A commitment process that is fast enough to actually protect anyone is also fast enough to be used to harass people at the discretion of individual police officers, individual therapists, or just family members who may not be acting in the person’s best interest. A process that is too slow is basically useless for the people who actually would need it. It all sounds good on paper, but how do you really stop something like that from being abused? Hell, even the regular criminal justice system is frequently abused even though it has many safeguards in place.

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