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SkillbillyRich Juzwiak
7/31/15 3:58pm
I'm not excusing what Dre did at all, but Gawker has another thing coming if they think a hit piece on him is going to have any effect on his career. He's not exactly Bill Cosby.
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  RobNYCSkillbilly
  7/31/15 4:04pm
  U mad bro?
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  SkillbillyRobNYC
  7/31/15 4:17pm
  Why would I be mad?
  
  I’m just pointing out Gawkers pathetic attempt at trolling for clicks by putting out really old news.
  
  If you listen to rap music, you’ll know that derogatory subject matter is the norm, as REAL rap is social commentary. This piece just serves to highlight the realities that are already well known. Other than click-bait for the uneducated, I can’t see a purpose other than to try and drum up controversy ahead of the movies premier.
  
  If you’re going to see “Straight outta Compton” I really don't think you give a shit that someone got slapped around 25 years ago. It's like pissing in an ocean.
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DonkeydongRich Juzwiak
7/31/15 3:53pm
“It’s also a refreshing counter narrative for a group of guys who were mostly vilified by the mainstream media during their short stint as the most notorious rap act in the country”

Dude—they cultivated an image of villainy and bad-ass-itude. The album cover was them standing around looking down and pointing a gun, giving the viewer the impression that he or she had just caught a beat down and is about to be murdered. Most of their songs are about what gangsters they are. Being vilified by the mainstream media is kind of the point.

Not everything needs to be contextualized in a post-structuralist neo-Butlerian #blacklivesmatter framework.
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  SkillbillyDonkeydong
  7/31/15 4:25pm
  Thank you.
  
  It's like the joke flew right over Gawkers head in this one.
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  FreeRonDonkeydong
  7/31/15 4:32pm
  Can’t Rich just say “I don’t like rap music” or more accurately “I don’t understand rap music”. I don’t know what I’m supposed to take away from this piece.
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kaysey17Rich Juzwiak
7/31/15 4:01pm
So, basically a chick hurt some guy’s tender lil fee-fees & he beat her senseless.

Fuck those juvenile wanna-be gangsters. Those aren’t men in any sense of the word.
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  3Kilkaysey17
  7/31/15 4:20pm
  What he did was wrong, but Dre is certainly not a Juvenile wannabe gangster.
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  NopeNawkaysey17
  7/31/15 4:24pm
  I’m not sure how this piece missed that Dre beat the shit our Michelle too. And worse.
  
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Rich JuzwiakRich Juzwiak
7/31/15 4:23pm
Thought this clip of Cube flailing to justify his use of the word “bitch” during an interview with Barnes was very telling. Granted, he was probably 20 at the time of the interview, but still:

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  MulderLovesMeRich Juzwiak
  7/31/15 5:12pm
  Boy is she sucking up to a douchebag here. Word.
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jjkingRich Juzwiak
7/31/15 4:04pm
Okay so Dre had a scuffle with a female journalist 25 years ago . How does that qualify as as mysogynist ? Does he have a history of attacking women ?

Another trash reporting for white journalist who sees nothing good if hiphop
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  Fapple Paltrowjjking
  7/31/15 4:09pm
  You've clearly never listened to a whole NWA album the whole way through. I grew up listening to some of those skits and raps thinking they were funny, but I was like 8 then. I'm still a fan, but to gloss over their attitudes on women and it's affect on young boys like myself who looked up to them is irresponsible.
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  Spargerjjking
  7/31/15 4:30pm
  actually he does have a history of beating women.
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Max CherryRich Juzwiak
8/01/15 12:42am
So, I suppose this article will influence people who never had any intention of seeing Straight Outta Compton to...still not see it? Do you think anyone planning to see a movie about N.W.A. is suddenly not going to see it because stories are emerging about its members hitting women in their early adulthood?

“Fuck the Police” is a song I’m sure The Doors wish they might have made after some of their run ins with cops when they were physically assaulted. For all of the rebellion of the 60’s, it took one of the misogynist rap groups of the Reagan era to write a song directly challenging authority, at a time when authority was becoming more militarized than ever. Gangsta rap was to social justice for blacks (and Latinos) in the late 80s/early 90’s what the mafia was to the advancement of early 20th century immigrants. To quote Sammy “The Bull” Gravano, “they’re bad guys, but they’re our bad guys”.
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  SulaymanFMax Cherry
  8/01/15 4:52am
  I was unaware the movie would whitewash or downplay their history. I was going to see it, but now I’m unsure.
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  Max CherrySulaymanF
  8/01/15 2:11pm
  You mean, you thought a studio produced bio-pic about a once popular rap group, partly financed by two of the members themselves, was going to be a two hour, no holds barred smear job focusing on the bad things they did when they were adolescents? You must be disappointed.
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SolutionsCostRich Juzwiak
7/31/15 4:10pm
Nice read. I actually do remember when that happened. I also remember that interview, ad remarkably enough, the exact moment they all lowered their heads simultaneously. I immediately took that as a suspicious response to the q&a. Either they were straight lying, fronting or aware that they might have just doubled down on incriminating themselves.

There was a lot of wack stories coming out of the urban music scene back then. A lot of people got away with things that they shouldnt have. Dishonorable stuff just to get a rep. Dee Barnes was a pretty good person to have, representing urban/hip hop music on mainstream television. Her assault was a setback and not worth it.

But be honest, do you remember when that happened? Or is the “Remember When” headline just a thing now to start with when digging up dirt on people these days?
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  SkillbillySolutionsCost
  7/31/15 4:28pm
  Yes, how old is the writer in question? If he's younger than 33 or so, I'm calling BULLSHIT.
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  meowzterSkillbilly
  7/31/15 5:12pm
  Rich is in his mid/late-30s, I think. He most likely remembers all of this.
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weightycleaver2Rich Juzwiak
7/31/15 3:41pm
so that’s why they are called Beats
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ReburnsABurningReturnsRich Juzwiak
7/31/15 3:45pm
I think even if you evolve beyond being willing to do that to anyone, it is tremendously hard to admit you were that way. Partially because so many people will never accept that you may have changed, but also because the human brain has a tendency to want to prop ourselves up in our own memories, and focus on the parts of the past that we can look at our actions with pride about.

I wonder what the reaction would have been had they pretty much just given the full monte to the sexist and probably also homophobic ways of their youth. I think they, especially Ice Cube, are generally well liked enough that had they done it and then also come out and said “Yep, that’s how we were back then, but we’ve grown up, matured and realize that was a terrible way to be”, people would have accepted that.
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  DatSampleDickReburnsABurningReturns
  7/31/15 3:54pm
  hes basically another bill cosby but more violent
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  CadwallerReburnsABurningReturns
  7/31/15 3:55pm
  Dre hasn’t.
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gruffbenjaminRich Juzwiak
7/31/15 3:45pm
“Be smart, don’t be a retard. You gonna take advice from somebody who slapped Dee Barnes?...How the fuck you gonna tell this man not to be violent?” - Eminem, “Guilty Conscience”
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