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    HarvestMoonKelly Faircloth
    7/15/15 7:06pm

    My Child My Choice!

    Do you choose not to use a car seat? Nope, not your choice. Can you choose to sell your child into slavery? Do you choose to leave your child unattended in a hot car? Nope. Also not your choice. Many laws are written to protect kids from incompetent parents.

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      eggshelljonesHarvestMoon
      7/15/15 7:08pm

      Thing is, these are the same people who would probably say “I didn’t have no car seat when I was a kid and I survived!”

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      BeABigRedOneHarvestMoon
      7/15/15 7:12pm

      Good analogy, plus the additional dimension of possibly compromising the health of others.

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    Andrew DaisukeKelly Faircloth
    7/15/15 7:05pm


    “It is about defending the fundamental freedom of a parent to make an informed decision.”

    If it was an “informed” decision maybe, but science and the medical community has proven over and over again that this is, in fact, an uninformed decision.

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      thiazin redAndrew Daisuke
      7/15/15 7:48pm

      Exactly, if they were making an informed decision their kids would be fucking vaccinated.

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      HepcattyAndrew Daisuke
      7/15/15 8:42pm

      Even worse - it’s not even an uninformed decision, but a misinformed one. It isn’t that they simply don’t know about the subject, but they have actively researched, been taken in by faulty data and appeals to emotion, and come to a thoroughly investigated but wrong conclusion. Much harder to disabuse than an ignorant person.

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    BrightEyesKelly Faircloth
    7/15/15 7:28pm

    I am angered every time I see assholes like this who are fighting for the right to not vaccinate their children. Meanwhile there are millions of parents elsewhere who walk for hours, without shoes, to get their children vaccinated. I’ve said this before here, but yeah, it still infuriates me to no end when I see this shit.

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      monaBrightEyes
      7/15/15 8:06pm

      Perhaps we can set up some sort of trade.

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      Supernova: Bullshit JediBrightEyes
      7/15/15 8:33pm

      This is what Darwin was talking about isn’t it? On the upside these people will die off, they’ll take a bunch of innocent others with them, but we’ll get to see Darwinism first hand before a bunch of us die so there’s that.

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    GinAndTonic Got Stuck in the BarneyKelly Faircloth
    7/15/15 7:04pm

    That will get a “fuck NO” vote from me. Keep your disease vectors home or gtfo.

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      LOREM IPSUMGinAndTonic Got Stuck in the Barney
      7/15/15 7:07pm

      If I lived there, I’d vote the same way. I am an immune-compromised person, and cannot get certain vaccines. One of my cousins, who I love dearly, is an anti-vaxxer and refuses to vaccinate her children. It pains me to say it, but I have to tell her “I love you cuz, but I cannot be around your kids because whatever they could be carrying could kill me.”

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      randilynGinAndTonic Got Stuck in the Barney
      7/15/15 7:09pm

      We had a next door neighbor who coughed incessantly. She sounded like a consumptive in a diving bell. So instead of calling her by name in case she heard us talking about her, we nick-named her “Vector”. Good memories.

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    eggshelljonesKelly Faircloth
    7/15/15 7:11pm

    I have so much rage for these idiots. 1) Autism is not a worse fate than goddamn measles, 2) vaccines don’t fucking cause autism in the first place, and 3) how entitled do you have to be to not give even one solitary fuck about the health of others in your community who might not be ABLE to get vaccinated due to age or health issues and who could die because you won’t take precious Haiydenne in for her shots?

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      RaisedByHeathens Orange Meanie-Pantseggshelljones
      7/15/15 8:09pm

      What are regular(non- anti vaxxer) people who have autistic children supposed to tell them? “Oh- those people think it would be better to be dead than be you.” Fuck that noise.

      Also, fun story. Went to college with a girl named Haydenne. Not quite as pretensious a spelling, but did include the double N, E ending. She was... awful. She once peed in the middle of my dorm, and I got to slap her. Ruined my rug (also- the story I tell every time I watch Big Lebowski)

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      Supernova: Bullshit JediRaisedByHeathens Orange Meanie-Pants
      7/15/15 8:28pm

      Okay, I have to ask.

      Did it or did it not tie the room together?

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    accordingtoKelly Faircloth
    7/15/15 7:16pm

    I have an anti-abortion, anti-contraception, anti-vaccine friend. She had the nerve to make a Facebook post about how unconstitutional she found this law, because vaccination should be a personal choice. It took all I had not to type “roflmao"

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      HarvestMoonaccordingto
      7/15/15 7:22pm

      Type it.

      TYPE IT NOW.

      You deserve a much better class of friends.

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      BrightEyesaccordingto
      7/15/15 7:25pm

      Why is it “have” and not “had”?

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    AubinTheGreatestKelly Faircloth
    7/15/15 7:09pm

    I can’t stand anti-vaxxers. The ONLY reason they even have the vague excuses to use these arguments is because vaccines were so fucking successful in the first place.

    Like, if you have a medical condition that makes it impossible for you to get vaccinated, fine. Get your medical exemption and don’t get a vaccine. I’m cool with that. If you don’t want a vaccine because you’re a special little fucking snowflake, you can fuck right off to the doctor’s office and get that vaccine or go sit on the bottom of the ocean swaddling a concrete baby.

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      MelUK (aka kayakgrrl)AubinTheGreatest
      7/15/15 7:14pm

      It’s because of the people who can’t get vaccines due to medical conditions or being too young that we need everyone else to get them!

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      AubinTheGreatestMelUK (aka kayakgrrl)
      7/15/15 7:18pm

      Fucking exactly. Herd immunity is important. Hell, I know more than a few people here who are immune compromised (and I have two young nieces and two young nephews), and I get my shots because I don’t want them to get sick.

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    LucyPevensieKelly Faircloth
    7/15/15 7:23pm

    These goddamned anti-vaxxers give me a rage stroke. First, you’re not making an informed decision: you’re making an ignorant, dangerous, idiotic decision. Second, you’re not making this decision just for your child: you’re making it for every infant, elderly person, and immune-compromised person with whom your disease-carrying child might come in contact. GTFO with your “my child, my choice” bullshit. And don’t come crying to me when your child is at death’s door with whooping cough or scarlet fever, either. Effing morons.

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      xhr1sLucyPevensie
      7/15/15 7:40pm

      Honestly, CPS should be investigating every single one of these douchefucks. “I don’t like the government mandating that I feed my kids. My child my choice! There’s real, scientific evidence that every single autistic child has been exposed to food prior to diagnosis, and there’s a big-food conspiracy to cover it up! I don’t like the state acting like they know best, I’m a parent, and I should be the one to decide whether my child eats or not! It’s not like I’m hurting anyone.”

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      goddessoftransitoryLucyPevensie
      7/15/15 7:52pm

      Perhaps they’d like to explain their precious little choices to the family of the woman here in Washington who fucking DIED a few weeks ago—she was immuno-compromised and exposed to measles.

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    aiurKelly Faircloth
    7/15/15 7:02pm

    Is it illegal to covertly set their sign on fire? Like just...the corner? With a match or something? :P

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      MEtheBarbarianaiur
      7/15/15 7:05pm

      If they complain, tell them that it’s okay. The fire will make their sign stronger and boost its immunity to fire in the future.

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      The Otters Knew Alex Was Still AroundMEtheBarbarian
      7/15/15 7:15pm

      I see what you did there. And I like it.

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    LovebutterKelly Faircloth
    7/15/15 9:41pm

    So, I won't even go into how Jezebel continues to really be terrible at covering anything that has to do with parenting for a women's centered publication.. And yes mothers are feminist, so maybe you should work on that. But you also fail to leave out that this isn't just about manditory vaccinations- it's a breech on parental rights as far as their children's bodies go and that's terrifying. Also, I vaccinate but at an altered schedule that is not harmful to anyone. My daughter will have almost all of her vac done by preschool minus the third of just a handful and this law would prevent her from going to school. So because I don't want four different vac going into her tiny body all at once I am harming society because I choose to do them one at a time which my ped actually reccomends? See how your missing a huge piece of this story?

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      BrightEyesLovebutter
      7/16/15 7:23am

      Your parental rights stops when your actions, or inactions, have direct consequences for society at large. This isn’t the state telling you to put braces on your daughters teeth, or forcing you to feed her meat. This is the government protecting the rest of us from the potential of a widespread outbreak.

      The key word in your entire comment is “almost”. So she will not be fully vaccinated before her first day of school, which is why the state will prevent her from attending. It is harmful to everyone and maybe you should work on that.

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      FireKittyLovebutter
      7/16/15 10:04am

      You are free to make your own choices, and live by the consequences of those choices.

      People these days tend to forget about consequences. You get to choose if your child going to school is more important than your feelings about vaccines. If your decisions meant that much to you, you’d be fine with the trade-off.


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