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Pie-pieJoanna Rothkopf
7/05/15 9:35pm
“Woo woo, America! You are still a garbage country but we appreciate you allowing us do some of the things we want to do.”

Seriously though, garbage country? We have a whole lot of problems here and I’m not going to pretend otherwise but I think that we’re still better off than a lot of places because A. people are talking more and more about issues openly and don’t just get shunted off to a work camp for it and B. Good things continue to still happen like gay marriage.

Maybe slow that bitterness roll up a bit.
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  Montana-WildhackPie-pie
  7/05/15 9:42pm
  We are better off than a lot of people in a lot of countries. I don’t want to get all Lee Greenwood on y’all, but the fact someone can type “garbage country” on an unrestricted internet which people can read on free WiFi in a public library kinda disproves the point.
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  Pie-pieMontana-Wildhack
  7/05/15 9:45pm
  Yeah that point wasn’t lost on me either! We got a whole lot of shit to still work on and our history isn’t awesome but we’re also talking about a lot accomplished in a much shorter time period and we are still moving forward. Sometimes with a few backwards steps but still better than the places that don't even allow outside Internet or stone women for showing their ankles.
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Socks Are My Favorite ClothesJoanna Rothkopf
7/05/15 9:46pm
During last night’s Saturday Night Social, the question was, “Why are you proud to be an American?” And someone responded, “Well, I’m black, sooo......”

This has been on my mind all day. There is no country that I can think of where black people are treated poorly simply because they are black except for America. Are there racial problems in other countries? Sure. But it isn’t as bad as it is here, especially where I live in the south. I don’t think things are all that much different for transgender people, and maybe even worse. America has a long way to go. We have a lot of garbage to sift through to get this right.

I am still proud to be an American. Unfortunately, my moments of pride come when the majority are “outraged because this country is going to hell”.
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  Montana-WildhackSocks Are My Favorite Clothes
  7/05/15 9:51pm
  Really, not even the Dominican Republic?
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  Socks Are My Favorite ClothesMontana-Wildhack
  7/05/15 9:54pm
  Either you didnt’ read my entire post, or you’ve never lived in the deep south. The Dominican Republic has nothing on the black hatred that lives here.
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Herve VillechaizeJoanna Rothkopf
7/05/15 9:29pm
How are we a garbage country? That’s a pretty massive generalization, don’t you think? There are lots of wonderful people out there in America. Just because they don’t get a lot of play on Gawker Media doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Please don’t lump us all in with the crazies. Thank you.
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  Murray_PresentHerve Villechaize
  7/05/15 9:44pm
  Seems that some of these Jez writers who haven’t been here since the beginning like to get a bit mouthy every now and then. It’s very off-putting, but I was an asshole when I was younger, too. I’m not perfect now, but I’m sure as shit not as bad as I used to be.
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  Marlene FreaktrickMurray_Present
  7/06/15 12:51am
  Yeah I get the feeling that since there is a lot of new writers, there is a lot of YOUNG writers who say things without fully thinking through how they will come off.
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ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ : Riot GRRR is RUNNING WILDJoanna Rothkopf
7/05/15 9:38pm
Meanwhile, at Gawker Media’s Trolling Academy For Authors:

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randilynJoanna Rothkopf
7/05/15 9:49pm

“Proud to be an American ... where at least I am free to be me.” Maybe not all the way there, but not garbage.
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  AmyPascal-KeyboardWarriorrandilyn
  7/06/15 1:22am
  Speaking of free to be you and me, y’all should check out this excellent new doc on Frontline called Growing Up Trans. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/fro...
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  randilynAmyPascal-KeyboardWarrior
  7/06/15 1:44am
  Thank you. I will.
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TVViewerJoanna Rothkopf
7/05/15 9:43pm
This is so ‘monkey see, monkey do’ but damn, I want an old American flag to frame and hang on my wall! I wonder if that flag has a special Olympics significance?
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  Montana-WildhackTVViewer
  7/05/15 9:46pm
  That’s what I was thinking, that’s the flag from the Olympic games, which is hella cool.
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  Cocopop!TVViewer
  7/05/15 10:10pm
  My flag isn’t that old, but it occurred to me as I was hanging it up this year that we bought it right after September 11th. We were newlyweds. That is almost 14 years ago now. Someday it will be an old flag. Trippy!
  
  Caitlyn’s flag is probably from the 1976 Olympic games, which is amazing. I remember that too.
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Lilly (Hungry hungry hipster!)Joanna Rothkopf
7/05/15 9:50pm
This is one of the first 4th of July’s in a LONG time where I actually felt somewhat patriotic and proud to live here. Like damn, we still have a LOT of problems (hello institutionalized racism and sexism, I am looking at you), but we just passed marriage equality and I feel like we’re actually making some progress.
The Caitlyn Jenner thing wasn’t really in my mind at all, but that’s another point in our favor.
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adultosaur married anna on the astral planeJoanna Rothkopf
7/06/15 11:00am
i knew the comments would be golden after that ‘garbage country’ line and no one has disappointed. well maybe a little disappointed bc no one has blacked out with rage on either side of the argument yet.
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  Blergadultosaur married anna on the astral plane
  7/06/15 11:10am
  Trolling is the great American past time, that’s what George Bush was, right?
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ToastedCheeserJoanna Rothkopf
7/05/15 9:39pm
Woo woo, America! You are still a garbage country but we appreciate you allowing us do some of the things we want to do.

Don’t get me wrong—we have a lot of issues. Like, A LOT. Still, I count my blessings that I was born in the United States:

1. Homosexuality is not punishable by death.
2. As a woman, I can drive, I can go outside without a male escort, and I can vote.
3. Oh yeah, I’m not gonna get stoned to death or beheaded either.

GIF

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intheweedsJoanna Rothkopf
7/05/15 11:49pm
“What could have been a study in hate ended up being just the opposite”

Wait now... there was/is a METRIC FUCK-TON of hate, though and it hasn’t ended or let up yet. One could, in fact, do a study in the hate. let’s be perfectly honest here. Come now. Really depends on where you look, doesn’t it? Let’s not start celebrating like we converted anyone here. Those who were/are down already were. Nothing has changed except that random nobodies in my life want to explain/excuse their transphobia to me more regularly now that they have a celebrity reference to point to.
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  DonnaLintheweeds
  7/06/15 1:50am
  Agreed. Anyone who thinks there hasn’t been a huge amount of sneering, contemptuous hatred and ridicule towards Caitlyn Jenner, on social media and elsewhere, hasn’t been paying attention. Never mind towards other trans people.
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  Lisa LaughoutloudDonnaL
  7/06/15 6:52am
  More depressing than the typical idiots is the “I’ve suffered more” competition in the TG community that some seem to want to have. “Caitlyn’s famous, it’s easy for her” and so on. My friend killed herself last year so I guess she wins in the suffering. I wish she was here to collect her award. I know she would have been happy for Caitlyn.
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