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    LordBurleighHamilton Nolan
    6/08/15 12:47pm

    You guys are always welcome to crash at my place in Chicago.

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      Sean BrodyLordBurleigh
      6/08/15 12:53pm

      Always a spare room at chez Brody also

      A sunny and spacious two-bed in Boston with front and back decks that is a 10 minute walk to work and a 10 minute walk to the beach



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      The Ghost of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ AKA BabyStepsLordBurleigh
      6/08/15 12:56pm

      Wait. . . you are in Chicago? Why did I think you were on the West Coast?

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    Sean BrodyHamilton Nolan
    6/08/15 12:48pm

    I guess that means that Bay Ridge is next to blow the fuck up

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      Engineer_I_amSean Brody
      6/08/15 12:51pm

      There isn’t much rental property here. Most are 1-fam houses.

      That POS across the street from mine is for sale for $1.4M, LOL... and it’d probably sell above asking.

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      DennyCraneSean Brody
      6/08/15 12:54pm

      Honestly, I’m a little surprised it hasn’t already. It’s a pretty nice part of Brooklyn.

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    HoldenCashHamilton Nolan
    6/08/15 1:25pm

    All development is not gentrification.

    This is a major problem with the anti-gentrification movement...

    Some people think **any development** is “gentrification”...which is fatuous, stupid, and wrong.

    Buildings are not permanent...they fall apart and need to be fixed or replaced...people are always looking for cheap rent.

    Gentrification has an elitist, rights-depriving, unfair aspect to it...it’s predatory.

    Without development no one would want to live in your city, including you.

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      ThrumbolioHoldenCash
      6/08/15 1:33pm

      Some people think **any development** is “gentrification”...which is fatuous, stupid, and wrong.

      Yep, this.

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      gregmHoldenCash
      6/08/15 1:35pm

      I would tend to agree with this in the abstract and the market explanation for supply and demand would indicate there will be someone to supply the cheaper digs because there’s only so many rich people to take the luxury flats. But there seems to be no end to it. Everything is priced ridiculously and redevelopment always seems aimed at the luxury market. In my town even the shitty apartments get a face-lift and are called luxury.


      So at this point in time, any redevelopment seems aimed at gentrification and pricing out the locals who are already there. That’s why people get resentful.

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    Don't drone me broHamilton Nolan
    6/08/15 1:27pm

    On our most recent trip to NYC last month, we went to Queens to the 130 year old Bohemian Hall and Beer Garden (good schnitzel!), and then to Lemon Ice King of Corona. First trip there, loved the neighborhoods (Corona Heights is essentially the Mission District in SF 20 years ago), with the families and old businesses, and one and two story residences in and amongst a surprising amount of tree lined streets. The Google street view tour of Canarsie I’m now taking, open in another window, looks like more of the same, and for the umpteenth time I wonder if it’s too late to chuck it all here and live in the shadow of Manhattan for awhile, just to say I have. #wishfulgentrifying #partoftheproblem

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      NewYorkCynicDon't drone me bro
      6/08/15 2:22pm

      Queens is great. Most of the borough is still relatively affordable and convenient as hell to Manhattan (plus, as you saw, there’s plenty of things to do here too). Outside LIC and Astoria it’s still relatively working class. My wife and I just bought an apartment for around 200k (by NYC standards that’s nothing). We’re both teachers so it’s not like we’ve got an endless supply of cash at our disposal. Things are definitely getting pricier, but for the time being Queens is still pretty accessible if you go a few subway stops in.

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      FionaAnneNewYorkCynic
      6/08/15 3:21pm

      Yep - I paid low $200s for a large (appx 1000 SF) two-bedroom out in Queens.

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    nopunin10didHamilton Nolan
    6/08/15 1:01pm

    How does rent control work exactly in NYC? It seems to me that the biggest issue of gentrification is pricing out the locals—many of the other changes have the potential to be beneficial in the long term.

    Are NYC’s rules on rent control too easy to get around or something?

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      andsmokeit is building a house in ryan fitzpatrick's beardnopunin10did
      6/08/15 1:09pm

      more like they keep changing them for pretty much no logical reason

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      NewYorkCynicnopunin10did
      6/08/15 1:15pm

      Rent control barely exists anymore. Rent stabilization (a weaker form of rent control) is essentially aging out. Once a stabilized apt hits $2500/mo it can be destabilized when that tenant moves out. Since there is high turnover in the city many places have come out of stabilization. This makes it very difficult to find a stabilized apartment if you do have to move, so people who have them cling to them, and those who need them have a very hard time getting them. It's a really awful system.

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    Indiana van der RoheHamilton Nolan
    6/08/15 12:52pm

    These neighborhoods are also at the end of the earth.

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      aa96Indiana van der Rohe
      6/08/15 2:12pm

      Bay Ridge ain’t that far out. Plus consider that East New York is considered a gentrifying neighborhood and that might as well be on the moon as far as I’m concerned.

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      RobNYCaa96
      6/08/15 2:38pm

      That’s because East New York was considered a “bad” neighborhood. Bay Ridge as far as I know never was. It’s always sort of been the same. But that R train is a bitch.

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    A House In VirginiaHamilton Nolan
    6/08/15 1:48pm

    wake me up when Staten Island is trendy, because it will mean all the Republicans are gone.

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      JCarter2014A House In Virginia
      6/08/15 2:17pm

      The projects near where Garner was killed must be very trendy,guarantee few Republicans living there,please move in there.

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      A House In VirginiaJCarter2014
      6/08/15 3:27pm

      your umm, grammar, indicates you’re probably one of those Staten Island Republicans?
      I will break you like a BOY.

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    Mount_PrionHamilton Nolan
    6/08/15 12:53pm
    • South Shore, Staten Island (-5%)

    I’d be interested to see how the prices rose and fell on this one around Hurricane Sandy, assuming it was one of the heavily hit parts of SI.

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      RobNYCMount_Prion
      6/08/15 2:20pm

      Good catch.

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      somnambulistMount_Prion
      6/08/15 3:16pm

      Browsing these over, wouldn’t Canarsie be in the same situation? Low elevations, little natural protection. Not a resident, so forgive me if I have this entirely wrong. Bay Ridge is the only of the 3 that’s not just barely above sea level. All the south coastal areas are (relatively) low increases, for that matter.

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    RobNYCHamilton Nolan
    6/08/15 2:26pm

    With respect to Bay Ridge, there’s nothing to “gentrify.” It’s always been pretty much the way it is now. It’s also at the end of the R train so that’s always going to keep it relatively cheap.

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      Rockaway Beach BoyRobNYC
      6/08/15 2:32pm

      yeah, the accessabilty part is up for debate, i know how that goes living in Rockaway Beach..i commute an hour to work every day..which is kinda bullshit but its better than paying 3500 dollars a month to live in 9 floor walk up tenement slum

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      DCMRobNYC
      6/08/15 3:22pm

      I live in Bay Ridge now, and work in midtown. Takes me 45 minutes to get to work (R train to 36th street and then D train to Herald Sq). I get why people think its far because its relative to living in a more northern part of Brooklyn. It ain’t for everyone, which works out in my favor. Less crowded everything (except for street parking which I don’t have to deal with anyway). I’ll take cheaper, less crowded living and pay for it by way of “long communte.” Plus, how many neighborhoods get to do this:

      http://www.summerstrollon3rd.com/

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    Medieval KnievelHamilton Nolan
    6/08/15 12:57pm

    I’m investing in the Staten Island South Shore now, before the 7 train inevitably reaches there.

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      NewYorkCynicMedieval Knievel
      6/08/15 5:36pm

      Pretty sure SI is Phase 5 of the Second Avenue Subway. Last I heard the 7 Extension was bypassing Jersey and heading straight to the Poconos.

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