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TRUMP DELENDUS EST (fka Chatham Harrison)Hamilton Nolan
6/05/15 11:46am
I hate the way America coddles the poor. Food? Shelter? What’s next, education?

I grew up in an America where one’s success and failure was determined by what matters most: the color of your skin and the size of your daddy’s checkbook. Seeing this kind of soft-hearted, wooly-headed libtard nonsense undermine our nation makes me sick.
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  dwarfANDpliersTRUMP DELENDUS EST (fka Chatham Harrison)
  6/05/15 11:50am
  definitely not education, that might be too much of an equalizer...give them enough to subsist (but be sure to mock them at every turn for that).
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  ManchuCandidateTRUMP DELENDUS EST (fka Chatham Harrison)
  6/05/15 11:51am
  
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KaidogHamilton Nolan
6/05/15 12:08pm
Ronald Reagan and the trope of the welfare queen, may he rot in Hades.
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  XYPKaidog
  6/05/15 1:31pm
  Well, actually, Clinton was responsible for that mess.
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_…
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  KaidogXYP
  6/05/15 1:51pm
  The Clinton Administration didn’t do the poor any favors. But I remember when Reagan made the welfare queen reference and it was viral, 24 hour contagion. I wonder if Clinton and his allies would have been so ungenerous if it hadn’t been for the push against the poor that began in the early 1980s.
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Don'tPokeTheWhereHamilton Nolan
6/05/15 11:43am
I want to have a job and a baby, but I refuse to have kids I can’t financially support.

If only more people thought like this. Guess that’s the glory of not just getting pregnant at the drop of a hat...
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  ManchuCandidateDon'tPokeTheWhere
  6/05/15 11:48am
  
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  nocturnalkittyDon'tPokeTheWhere
  6/05/15 12:30pm
  If more people thought like this the human race would go extinct. I say this because all of the people I know who think this way (myself included) do not have kids and it looks like we won’t be having them.
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dwarfANDpliersHamilton Nolan
6/05/15 11:54am
She went for over a year in and out of hospitals blowing through all of her savings, before they could even diagnose her condition.

It still depresses me how many people vigorously oppose ACA and when you point out how many people go bankrupt to pay for health care and/or avoid potentially life-saving health care because they can’t afford it, they basically shrug their shoulders—”I got mine, I’m supposed to feel bad because life selected them out?” The lack of empathy in this country is staggering.
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  SeriousAsAShartAttackdwarfANDpliers
  6/05/15 12:21pm
  I used to believe that maybe there would be a breaking point for this. At a certain point, wouldn’t so many people go through the financial ruination of a bad health problem (or at least know someone who has) that popular support for a single-payer system, like what you see in just about every other developed country in the world, would win out? First-hand experience with a painful problem is a really effective motivator, right? Well, so far we haven’t hit that point yet, and it’s not fun to think how bad it will have to get before we do.
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  Sophie929dwarfANDpliers
  6/05/15 12:24pm
  Yeah, it’s becoming increasingly clear to me that “conservative ideology” can be boiled down to “fuck you, got mine”.
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dwarfANDpliersHamilton Nolan
6/05/15 11:48am
why are you still not publishing all the hundreds or thousands of emails you get from people on welfare driving Mercedes’ to their manicure appointments and eating filet mignon after???
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  Pending ApprovaldwarfANDpliers
  6/05/15 3:26pm
  The answer to this problem is not eliminating the so-called “entitlement” programs. It’s better oversight of the programs to weed out the cheaters and eliminate them from the program. This would not only save the taxpayers money, but it would also create full-time well-paying jobs with benefits for the unemployed. Win-win situation, right? The Republitards don’t see it that way.
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  dwarfANDpliersPending Approval
  6/05/15 4:22pm
  I think my disagreement with people who don’t like these programs is—I agree that the system is imperfect and that people abuse it, and they should be stopped and maybe even prosecuted. But I’d rather some people abuse the system (until it can be fixed, which is right after hell freezes over) so that others who really need it can still get the help they need, than to scrap the whole thing to punish the cheaters. (And as far as abuse—how much are you *really* going to abuse a welfare system? When I collected unemployment while I was out of work for 13 months that was $400/week, which is ~$20k/year. You’re NOT living in style on $20k/year.)
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ThrumbolioHamilton Nolan
6/05/15 2:22pm
A single 64-year-old Floridian, I have been on Disability since I was 53. Multiple back issues put me in a wheelchair preempting physical labor. Plus, advanced osteoarthritis (incl fingers and hands) prevents me from doing any office job.

Something like this compels me to ask: is there some sort of job that someone so afflicted can do? Some kind of task they can perform?

I ask because it seems like there’s a certain point at which it seems that resigning oneself to aid in perpetuity is the only option. That’d drive me absolutely apeshit.
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  kinjaonninjaThrumbolio
  6/07/15 1:19pm
  Disabilities can affect people in different ways. His osteoarthritis may be so severe that he can’t type. My mother’s arthritis is so bad, her fingers are twisted up and have nodules growing off of them, but she’s still able to type (she’s actually a medical transcriptionist, so she does almost nothing *but* type for 8 hours/day). I have lupus and a host of other medical problems. I can’t hold a “real job” because of the way my problems affect me. Every time I get a job, it goes well for three months, maybe even six months, but then...bam. I need surgery, or my lupus flares so badly that I can’t get out of bed, let alone commute to work and put in 40 hours/week. I started my own business about 7 years ago so that I can work from home and make my own schedule, but I am fortunate to a) have a skill that people are willing to pay me to use and b) have the basic wherewithal to run a business. Not everyone with a disability is going to magically have those skills and be able to come up with an alternative.
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  Thrumboliokinjaonninja
  6/08/15 9:06am
  Not everyone with a disability is going to magically have those skills and be able to come up with an alternative.
  
  Very few people “magically” have ANY skill. I’m just wondering if there isn’t some skill out there that someone in this situation can develop and/or be paid for.
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MuscatoHamilton Nolan
6/05/15 12:30pm
These accounts are incredibly important to read, both for the insights they give into thes lives so close to the margins and, for those of us (for now) in a better place, as reminders that we need to do more. I’m recently on a medically mandated diet, and I can’t imagine trying to find things I’m able to eat on $200 a month - “eat more berries,” says the doctor, “lots of avocado and nuts...” It would be like telling me to fly to the moon and subsist on space dust.
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  WaidonutMuscato
  6/05/15 4:37pm
  It also blows my mind that those with families to feed seem to get the same amount on food stamps than single people? Like how do you feed a bunch of kids with less than 200$ a month!??
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Don'tPokeTheWhereHamilton Nolan
6/05/15 11:48am
When I was making a lot of money and being an average tax payer, I never thought about any of this stuff. I never compared prices and weights of one jar of peanut butter to the next.

This puzzles me. I make OK money but I always check the unit price (thank you 20th century consumer protections!) and prefer to save money and buy store brand/generic. Sometimes I’ll splurge on a higher end store brand or brand if I have a coupon or a discount but just buying stuff, at least grocery shopping, without comparing, would drive me nuts.
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  Life is a PlaylistDon'tPokeTheWhere
  6/05/15 12:04pm
  This. I make well over the median income in the US and still compare unit prices. You do not get rich by being sloppy with money. Food companies employ all kinds of tricks to give you less for more.
  
  There are also things that people with more money do that may seem extravagant to others, but actually makes sense. I may have cleaning people, but if I work those two hours they’re in my house, I will make more than I pay them. I would make $0 cleaning myself. I make it a point to work while they’re cleaning. Cleaning my house is profitable for both me and the people I am paying to do it. I hate cleaning and figured out how to avoid it, while still making money.
  
  Everybody, whether you have $1 dollar or $10,000,000, should do a quick cost/benefit analysis on every dollar they spend. More than ever, people are trying to separate you from your money.
  
  My momma gave me the best advice I’ve ever heard: “son, just about everybody you meet will be after a buck or a fuck.”
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Don'tPokeTheWhereHamilton Nolan
6/05/15 11:37am
Two tenants have such horrible manners, I can only imagine they were raised by wolves.

Wolves were raised to survive in a pack, those humans on the other hand, probably not. Shame no one will give them a good bite.
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