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    BlatheringHamilton Nolan
    2/26/15 1:54pm

    So there's no evidence except the guy who did it, claiming this other guy had him do it?

    FL, you better up your game. OK is coming for you in the stupid olympics.

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      SRR1203Blathering
      2/26/15 1:59pm

      Don't encourage them. What with the backyard shooting ranges not being as buzzworthy as they thought, they're in the market for something especially nutsy-coo-coo.

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      MichaelBlathering
      2/26/15 1:59pm

      And the guy who did it apparently now says he was lying to avoid the death penalty himself.

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    ratchedHamilton Nolan
    2/26/15 3:50pm

    Aw Hamilton, did you ASK the guy what his fitness routine consists of, and tell him he was a pussy for not doing 30 chinups a day?

    I am not much for the DP, but when you get on about 100 of these, you will recognize you are reading the same thing over and over. They tend to affect almost the same, exact language, the same seemingly exacting penmanship (if literate), and even their pleas of innocence are quite similar. That sucks for any who are truly innocent, because they DO often all start sounding alike and you kind of switch off.

    Like I have recounted before, I would have inmates tell me how innocent they are, and they are in prison after terribly flawed trials. If you humor them and let them go on about it, if will be things like, "The prosecutor said we were driving a green Chevy. Miss Ratched, that was just a lie!" "Oh yeah?" Yeah, the car was kind of aqua, and it was a Buick. You know if they lied about that, they might have lied about *everything*.

    Don't forget, even with Barry Scheck's Innocence Project, +/- 50% of inmates who tell the IP they are *absolutely innocent, the DNA will tell the tale*, only +/- 50% are verified guilty or proven innocent, using DNA. (This is after an *extensive* screening process in which the IP will agree that they were likely erroneously imprisoned/charged.) That said, about 4% of DP inmates (guesstimated) who are put to death are innocent of the crime they were put to death for and/or innocent of any crime.

    I think more attention needs to be placed on the inordinate amount of people of color who are incarcerated and certainly the ones given the DP. I can get behind that.

    I'm only posting one link, because once I post something into a post, Kinja freezes me out of further posts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innocence…

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      sweatisfatcryingratched
      2/26/15 4:30pm

      "That said, about 4% of DP inmates (guesstimated) who are put to death are innocent of the crime they were put to death for and/or innocent of any crime."

      Phew. Still way under my "25%-of-innocents-killed-in-the-name-of-justice-is-too-many" threshold.

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      ratchedsweatisfatcrying
      2/26/15 4:43pm

      Ha! (I wasn't justifying it, btw. Just reminding folks, and hating that the truly guilty claiming innocence so convincingly, screws things up for the truly innocent to catch a break, yet who can blame someone for trying to save their life?) It's all a dirty business in every way.

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    sweatisfatcryingHamilton Nolan
    2/26/15 1:45pm

    It's time for "Letters From Death Row" drinking game!

    "Where are the letters from the victim's family?!?!?" Drink.

    "Here's the letter from a victim's family Gawker got that one time!!!" Drink.

    "The death penalty is good!!!" Drink.

    "The death penalty is bad!!!" Drink.

    "Hamilton is a bleeding heart who loves convicted killers!!!" Drink.

    "Hamilton is giving a needed voice to the condemned!!!" Drink.

    "Why should my tax dollars keep this monster alive???" Drink.

    "A life sentence is cheaper than the death penalty!!!" Drink.

    Did I miss any?

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      Cabezonsweatisfatcrying
      2/26/15 1:54pm

      You'll be on death row for my murder if I actually have to drink to all of these

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      Plaguesweatisfatcrying
      2/26/15 1:55pm

      Yea

      "A post saying what I just said every time one of these letters is posted"

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    Quantum SuicideHamilton Nolan
    2/26/15 2:47pm

    I have been on a hunger strike since being put in the cell I am in now, which is 14 days now. So it is not easy for me at this point to write long letters.

    HEARTBREAKING. For someone to believe he has limited life and use that remaining life to deprive himself of the most human need (nutrition) in order to express a position? That's heartbreaking.

    I'm happy these letters are being published. It serves as a reminder that these are real people going under the needle.

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      Aberrant LawyerQuantum Suicide
      4/14/15 9:31am

      Glossip was offered twenty (20) years by Judge Twilla Mason Grey (deceased). Richard Glossip turned the offer down because he would not plead to something he didn't do. My friend, Lynn Burch III, Esq. was there.

      It takes a truly innocent person to turn down a guilty plea in a situation where "caving in" means you've just saved your own life. I have seen starving inmates and tortured inmates plead guilty to get released whether they're guilty or not.

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    bayonet1974Hamilton Nolan
    2/26/15 2:19pm

    If you want an alternate, and much more complete view of why this guys is in death row take a look at this:

    http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ok-court-of-cr…

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      lilyblue68bayonet1974
      2/26/15 3:15pm

      can you summarize please?

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      Night and the jesuitsbayonet1974
      2/26/15 3:34pm

      Long read but highly suggested for a seriously needed dose of light. Mr Sneed doesn't exactly strike me as a genius or pathological savant that can keep a story that complicated perfectly straight under interrogation and prosecutorial cross examination. Judge Lewis obviously feels where Sneed swung the bat Glossip was the attempted mastermind. Attempted in that I don't find Glossip particularly bright either.

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    Ken Yadiggit, AdiosHamilton Nolan
    2/26/15 1:38pm

    Glossip, however, did kill Barry Van Treese; a man named Justin Sneed did.


    ....did kill or did NOT kill?

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      cheeselKen Yadiggit, Adios
      2/26/15 1:46pm

      It very clearly was supposed to read "didn't kill". Read the rest of the article.

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    stacyinbeanHamilton Nolan
    2/26/15 2:06pm

    Christ, where is Sarah Koenig when you need her?

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      Medieval KnievelHamilton Nolan
      2/26/15 3:19pm

      Today's Glossip is tomorrow's dule.

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        mymomsawmyjunk2Hamilton Nolan
        2/26/15 1:51pm

        This sounds like a movie, what a disaster. I'm not a defense attorney but the fact that someone couldn't get this guy off for this is a travesty. Jesus.

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          CHOmyGodHamilton Nolan
          2/26/15 2:18pm

          ugh, so fucked up. also, i'd like to know what Oklahoma's standards are to consider a crime for the death penalty? this murder seems somewhat...average.

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            bellwakCHOmyGod
            2/26/15 2:59pm

            In Oklahoma, the fact that money was involved made it a capital case. If Sneed hadn't brought up the money part of it, it would have been a different game. The threshold for a capital crime varies from state-to-state, but Richard is the only person on OK Death Row who the courts agree did not actually kill anyone.

            What's also pretty shocking is if you look at the death row inmates in various states, the ones who claim innocence (it's a misconception that all of them do; most don't) are usually the ones who have been implicated in a murder-for-hire type of scheme. Another example is Linda Carty in Texas. Hugely troubling that prosecutors are willing to broker deals with confessed killers in order to get a conviction on a possibly innocent person.

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