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    runnahHamilton Nolan
    11/12/14 10:05am

    My surefire costs saving plan.

    1. Get prisoner

    2. Give them gun with one bullet

    3. Make them read every single comment on this and all the sister sites.

    4. Wait

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      benjaminalloverrunnah
      11/12/14 10:19am

      This is very similar to what my dad said when we were discussing the death penalty the other day. We don't execute criminals in Canada, but my dad thinks that they should always have the choice to opt out of life in prison. I think it's macabre but I did have a difficult time in putting my finger on why it would be wrong precisely. Because suicide is also a crime? Seems pedantic. Because they should serve their sentence? I can't believe any victim's advocates would complain. Because that is cruel and unusual? So is 65 years in a cage, so is death row.

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      KittensAndUnicorns_v2_The Uprisingbenjaminallover
      11/12/14 10:28am

      i was never on death row, but i was pretty much in solitary confinement for about a week, in prison in a different country. if you have a mind, being trapped in a tiny room with no books, no internet, no one to talk to, NOTHING, will drive you mad with despair and anguish. i actually think locking people up forever, in the current conditions in america, are actually too cruel and inhumane. i think i'm against the death penalty in general, but damn, it seems a lot less cruel to shoot someone in the back of the head/give them a gun with one bullet to option out than it is to lock them in a room smaller than the tiniest closet space in nyc, for the rest of their life.

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    Obfuscatio: philosopher at largeHamilton Nolan
    11/12/14 10:12am

    It costs a life. Isn't that already too high a price?

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      Seneca the Younger(er)Obfuscatio: philosopher at large
      11/12/14 10:40am

      Intrinsically, I would value the life of a kitten I had never met over the life of a person I had never met. The average person on this planet has a value (to me) somewhere around the value of the soap scum that I clean out of my bathtub weekly. Do something positive for the species and your value (as an individual) goes up. Taken as a species, though, we're invasive predators with no contribution to the ecosystem who just make things worse wherever we go. And our numbers are intolerably high and unsupportable. So, short answer, no, it's not too high a price.

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      EasttoMidwestSeneca the Younger(er)
      11/12/14 11:04am

      So why don't you kill others and then yourself?

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    Kenhe LoginHamilton Nolan
    11/12/14 10:16am

    The problem with executions is not the money; the problem with executions is how fucked up our justice system is.

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      FrederickDouglassHamilton Nolan
      11/12/14 10:18am

      Our Humanity.

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        schuberuHamilton Nolan
        11/12/14 10:07am

        You have to ask yourself, what is the opportunity cost of having the death penalty? Is the principle of being executed for your crimes worth sacrificing 2 million dollars? If you believe the death penalty should stay as punishment for crimes, can you change the system to save more money?

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          UncleCCClaudiusHamilton Nolan
          11/12/14 10:08am

          I'm sure there are Free Market solutions to these costs.

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