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    captain_spleenCallie Beusman
    9/24/14 4:28pm

    "Jennifer Lopez's exes might write a tell-all alleging that she sacrifices chickens"

    Well, at least she's not a Scientologist like her father.

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      Amanda Greathousecaptain_spleen
      9/24/14 4:39pm

      Aside from that, Santeria is an offshoot of Catholicism anyhow, from what I understand, akin to the way Kabbalah is an offshoot of Judaism. Is it darker and more mysterious? Maybe to some. I dated a girl about ten years ago who practiced Santeria. It's not that big a deal. It's not like there's a whole lot of difference in a chicken being killed and a chicken being killed. One you eat, the other involved sacred rite and ritual. *shrug*

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      The QueenAmanda Greathouse
      9/24/14 4:41pm

      Yeah, the only thing about Santeria that is weird is walking by a church of Santeria at night (there was one by CCNY when I briefly went there) and hearing the animals sacrificed. Goats are some loud mo'fo's.

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    VwolfCallie Beusman
    9/24/14 4:47pm

    "So, just to reiterate: the Duggars are forbidden from making bodily contact with men until married, but after marriage they must be willing to have sex whenever their husbands want"

    This is so fucking disturbing. Basically women have no free will and all their value is placed on their reproductive abilities. It's biblical times inside that fucking household. So, imagine not being allowed to explore and get to know a guy intimately before marrying him... What if he's a super psycho pervert freak who's into things that make you feel uncomfortable or scared? What if he's not romantic at all and treats you badly in bed? What if he's HUGE and hurts you? It's so important to test the car before buying it. Sexual chemistry and the way he treats you and makes you feel in bed are very important in a relationship.

    I used to believe (when I was very little) that people had to wait 'til marriage. As you grow older you just cannot go along with that charade. It's important that you see how a man treats you in bed. It says A LOT about him.

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      FridayFridayVwolf
      9/24/14 4:53pm

      An older friend of mine likes to tell the story of two of his friends from college who waited until they were married to do anything more than kiss. They never told anyone what happened on their wedding night, but whatever it was, it was bad enough that the woman initiated a divorce (or annulment? not sure which) the very next day. While they were still in Hawaii for the honeymoon.

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      The QueenFridayFriday
      9/24/14 5:02pm

      My grandparent's neighbors had a girl who waited until marriage. That night her husband (who came off as a nice, quiet guy) beat the ever-lasting piss out of her, saying that she was 'his' now. Not good at all.

      I read an article in a psychology journal that a lot of marriages that place a high emphasis on virginity until marriage don't work out.

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    dalilaCallie Beusman
    9/24/14 4:36pm

    "They're finally starting a family!"

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      mollymlf05dalila
      9/24/14 4:40pm

      One of my biggest pet peeves is when people refer to couples having kids as "starting a family." Pretty sure you legally become a family when you get married, so yeah, family already started.

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      dalilamollymlf05
      9/24/14 4:44pm

      I just love being reminded about the expectation that women must pump out children as soon as possible. Especially from Star, my preferred news source.

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    slowtraincomingCallie Beusman
    9/24/14 4:36pm

    I actually have nothing awful enough to say about that shit with the Duggars. Jesus, those are some sick puppies.

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      SamBargeslowtraincoming
      9/24/14 4:38pm

      I live in hope that one of those kids will totally rebel and take a bunch of their siblings with them.

      That is nothing but crazy shit.

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      dalilaslowtraincoming
      9/24/14 4:41pm

      It all sounds terrifying.

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    GlanceAskanceCallie Beusman
    9/24/14 4:41pm

    Nice to see that "touch the stomach" = pregnant applies to lesbian couples as well. Progress!

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      sour plumCallie Beusman
      9/24/14 4:43pm

      I don't understand why Jennifer Anniston's uterus is constantly a story line. Who is selling this line, and who is buying it? Does it really sell magazines? Or do her publicists using the tabloids' weird interest in this as a way to keep her in the 'spotlight'? Is Jennifer Anniston even in/promoting movies and/or TV shows? Maybe I'm a celebrity gossip conspiracy theorist but I LITERALLY DON'T GET IT.

      GIF
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        Brigitte Bardot's black wigsour plum
        9/24/14 4:54pm

        No, I don't get it, either. Looking at imdb, I've barely heard of many of the movies she's done in the past 10 years, and it doesn't even seem like she's done that much. Which, that's fine, she's rich as hell! But you can't tell me her publicist isn't planting alllll of these stories.

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        amgarresour plum
        9/24/14 5:04pm

        Yeah, and whoever is still buying it, please explain yourself. Do you live in a twilight fog where thinking Jennifer Aniston is always about to have her first baby makes you happy? Or is it the dull monotony of a Groundhog's Day for the maternally obsessed that you constantly leaves you crushed when you find out she's not?

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      Inspector SpacetimeCallie Beusman
      9/24/14 5:30pm

      I usually find the "Random female celebrity is pregnant because she touched her stomach/ate a burrito/gained two pounds" stories to be totally absurd, but the Portia/Ellen one is INFURIATING. You're going to say that a woman who has publicly stated that she has no intention of ever having kids AND that she's battled with eating disorders is pregnant because she gained some weight? That's fucked up.

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        hellbetty666Inspector Spacetime
        9/25/14 11:09am

        I came here to say exactly that - PDR has been really honest about her struggles with eating disorders and I found this article really irresponsible.

        (BTW - yours is the best name ever!)

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        Inspector Spacetimehellbetty666
        9/25/14 11:39am

        Commenting to get you out of the greys!

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      kckempfCallie Beusman
      9/24/14 4:45pm

      No chest-to-chest contact? Terrible ballroom dancers.

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        leftofuptownkckempf
        9/24/14 5:09pm

        But dancing leads to CARD PLAYING! And we mustn't have that.

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        kckempfleftofuptown
        9/24/14 6:32pm

        Haha, maybe! I remember the first time I danced in body contact as a novice dancer. I didn't know you were supposed to be that close until I was paired with an experienced dancer for an exhibition. She came into the frame, and I was like, "Oh, so we're doing this now? No complaints."

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      zombiepandaCallie Beusman
      9/24/14 4:47pm

      Did anyone else catch this Slate piece about a woman who escaped Quiverfull? So scary:

      He never had to raise his voice to keep me and the children in our place. And when he did raise his voice, well that was "speaking the truth in love." When he constantly criticized and complained about all the ways in which the children and I failed to live up to God's perfect standards, he was "hating the sin, but loving the sinner." He didn't have to brandish a weapon in order to control our every action, indeed even our thoughts and feelings. All he had to do was fulfill his God-appointed role of Patriarch; to love us as Christ loves the church.

      "Garrison references the Duluth Power and Control Wheel, a diagram used by domestic violence counselors to explain the eight major tactics of a domestic abuser, and shows how these tactics are not only accepted but even taught in the Quiverfull world as virtuous, "the relationship we were supposed to use as our model between husband and wife." Emotional abuse, for instance, is inherent in a lifestyle that teaches that women are so ill-equipped to make decisions that they need to always have a man, either father or husband, controlling their every waking minute, lest they develop a "Jezebel spirit":

      Plus, I knew that as a woman, I was particularly susceptible to deception by Satan. How many times, when we were discussing an important decision, had my husband said to me, "What you are suggesting SOUNDS reasonable, but how do I know that Satan isn't using you to deceive me?"

      http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto…

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        lolasockszombiepanda
        9/24/14 5:27pm

        I also recommend- http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyf… if you want to read more about Quiverfull and general patriarchal Christianity. Start with Libby Anne's story and also her nice takedown of Duggar defenders. It's creepier than even the slate article.

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        Kallielolasocks
        9/24/14 5:36pm

        She also has chapter-by-chapter reviews of some of the books that are popular in the Quiverfull movement that I found enlightening. The "Created to Be His Helpmeet" review is particularly chilling.

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      Subrina_SavageCallie Beusman
      9/24/14 4:53pm

      My face reading the Duggars story:

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