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PrayForDentonJ.K. Trotter
8/12/14 12:02pm
Can I comment? Is it safe?
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  viajakePrayForDenton
  8/12/14 12:05pm
  I think it's ok, I'll just peep out for a seco-OH SHIT PORN AND GORE
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  J.K. TrotterPrayForDenton
  8/12/14 12:16pm
  This is a safe space for valuable, productive discussion.
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Leah FinneganJ.K. Trotter
8/12/14 12:07pm
hmmmm
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  J.K. TrotterLeah Finnegan
  8/12/14 12:24pm
  Thanks Leah.
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  Freddie DeBoerLeah Finnegan
  8/12/14 12:37pm
  GREAT comment.
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K.G. BallardJ.K. Trotter
8/12/14 12:27pm
"It's certainly possible that many—perhaps the majority—of the deleted posts committed lesser sins, like insufficient photo sourcing"

How exactly is this a lesser sin? Stolen photos are worth less than the stolen words? At least with the words, they occasionally move around the prepositions. They outright steal copyright-protected photos.
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  J.K. TrotterK.G. Ballard
  8/12/14 12:42pm
  I don’t think anyone—or at least most people—automatically assume that a photo in a post was taken by the person who composed the post, regardless of whether or not the photo is properly sourced.
  
  Most people do, however, assume that the words placed outside of quote marks (or block quote formatting) were written by the post’s author.
  
  I am not a copyright expert, though, so you’re probably more right than I am about the moral or legal parity between taking words and taking photos.
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  K.G. BallardJ.K. Trotter
  8/12/14 1:39pm
  I don't know many writers or photographers who care what the reader assumes via-a-vis original authorship. They just don't want to be copied, curated and aggregated so aggressively that it's impossible to earn a living. Text and images are protected by the exact same copyright laws. BuzzFeed steals both with equal eagerness, and in both cases it's scummy. Then again, how can a staffer be expected to produce thousands of posts without theft? Thousands!
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YeOleBuckJ.K. Trotter
8/12/14 12:27pm
More than. I think you mean "more than" 4,000 posts.
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  J.K. TrotterYeOleBuck
  8/12/14 12:28pm
  Hmm. Disagree but I see your point. (Also I have to disable comments now, sorry!)
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  YeOleBuckJ.K. Trotter
  8/12/14 12:29pm
  I don't care what the fuck the AP style guide says now. It's always going to be more than to me. Also, have fun combating the trolls.
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raincoasterJ.K. Trotter
8/12/14 12:24pm
So, is there some kind of Stoperii-related nepotism involved here?
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  J.K. Trotterraincoaster
  8/12/14 12:40pm
  They draw insane amounts of traffic. I think that’s the crux of it.
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StenchofaburnerJ.K. Trotter
8/12/14 12:10pm
I don't know if they still do this but they used to credit photos lifted from Tumblr blogs not to the blogs themselves but to the generic Tumblr url for the image. For instance, if they linked to an image such as this one, instead of linking to the post like I just did, they would link to this (the source of the image), effectively erasing the source where they lifted the content from. One might argue that they were just lifting GIFs without any creativity value but there are two counterpoints to this 1) if they had no value, they should have created their own rather than taking them from Tumblrs who get no compensation and 2) they also lifted original work like recipe illustrations for their food section. I think they have discontinued this shady practice now but it was pretty disrespectful towards the people who put their content online. After all, links are currency on the internet.
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  antisamStenchofaburner
  8/12/14 12:30pm
  It always surprised me how they were able to get away with sourcing images to "i.imgur.com" or "media.tumblr.com," as if that's a meaningful attribution at all. Those Imgur guys sure are great at making gifs!
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  J.K. TrotterStenchofaburner
  8/12/14 1:25pm
  Yup.
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Freddie DeBoerJ.K. Trotter
8/12/14 12:34pm
Buzzfeed is the tool of Satan.
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  J.K. TrotterFreddie DeBoer
  8/12/14 12:38pm
  Way harsh, Freddie.
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  Freddie DeBoerJ.K. Trotter
  8/12/14 12:39pm
  hold on let me plagiarize up a snappy comeback
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sliderustink1J.K. Trotter
8/12/14 12:09pm
You need to pay Jim Cooke more. Whatever you pay him isn't enough.
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  J.K. Trottersliderustink1
  8/12/14 12:25pm
  Oh, I know. I KNOW.
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FlamesOnTheSideOfMyFaceJ.K. Trotter
8/12/14 12:05pm
Come on you guys. You're just baiting the fourteen year old Redditors with this nonsense. Fix your goddamn system so that the adults can talk.
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  J.K. TrotterFlamesOnTheSideOfMyFace
  8/12/14 12:14pm
  I’m here.
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wakawakawakawakaJ.K. Trotter
8/12/14 12:17pm
This Gawker vs. BuzzFeed shit is like Godzilla battling Gamera, and I'm lovin' it.

For the record, I'm rooting for Gawker (but shh, don't tell my friend at BuzzFeed).

Also for the record?

I plagiarized that "Gamera vs. Godzilla" analogy from Neil Gaiman's recent tumblr post about Amazon vs. Hatchett.

And I stole the "I'm lovin' it" from McDonald's stupid tagline, or whatever.

It seemed to be in the spirit of things.
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  J.K. Trotterwakawakawakawaka
  8/12/14 12:18pm
  Damn.
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