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    KatieKaBoom22Max Rivlin-Nadler
    12/15/13 2:45pm

    I just did a major paper for my psych program on increasing mental services to reduce instances of mass killings. EVERY SINGLE case I studies showed that the perpetrators had clear signs of mental illness that went ignored, or not addressed appropriately. Until family members and friends start insisting on mental health help and not falling into that "won't happen to me" trap, this will continue to happen. It won't stop all violent events, but increased mental health care, and early intervention, would help greatly.

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      psychomagnetKatieKaBoom22
      12/15/13 2:51pm

      And the official "stats" for those with mental illness being less violent vs. the general population may still be true, but further statistical analysis should be done or discussed if it has been done.

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      Kitten_WitawipKatieKaBoom22
      12/15/13 2:55pm

      Get back to me when your family member starts exhibiting signs of mental illness.

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    JohnMcClanesSmirkMax Rivlin-Nadler
    12/15/13 2:59pm

    Muslim mass shooters are terrorists.

    White mass shooters have a mental illness.

    White Muslim mass shooters are terrorists with a mental illness.

    #funwithsyllogisms

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      OverlordoftheGreysJohnMcClanesSmirk
      12/15/13 3:13pm

      Isn't the media great.

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      KatieKaBoom22JohnMcClanesSmirk
      12/15/13 3:28pm

      It can be argued that terrorists are mentally ill. People who become extremists to the point of mass violence usually fall prey to brainwashing through out group mentality. If you take the doctrine out of it, Muslim terrorists are no different than Christian terrorists who bomb abortion clinics, or the members of Branch Davidians in Waco, TX. And people who suffer from mental illness/low IQ/high dependency/ some or all of the above, congregate to these groups. I'm not really arguing for or against your point, just bringing some psychology into it.

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    SuffersfoolsgladlyMax Rivlin-Nadler
    12/15/13 6:23pm

    I recently went to the parents of a soldier soon to be discharged from the Army, because he is showing signs of becoming an Adam Lanza.

    He has PTSD and is afraid he is going to kill someone when he gets out. He went IN because "I want to shoot somebody". His Facebook page is full of anti Obama/Govermnet rants and some Arabic I do not understand. His commanding officers sent him to anger management, but then to Gitmo to guard the 9/11 Terrorists, where he became sicker.

    Let me tell you, this Mom refuses to believe anything is wrong with HER SON. Not possible. Wouldn't even respond to me, even though I have known this kid since he was 18.

    I finally went to the Chaplain on his base and told him about this. They were alarmed and I hope that some help has been offered to him, cos it ain't coming from the family.To them, everything is fine, their abused Black Sheep became respectable and joined the Army and no one is going to fuck up their rosy picture.

    If I get shot, it will have been him.

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      saucissonSuffersfoolsgladly
      12/15/13 6:41pm

      There's also a problem when the illness is something you see every day, and barring a single major psychotic (or depressive, or manic, or what-have-you), if it develops slowly it really is difficult for people sitting right there to see it, because they're so used to it.

      My example is not mental illness, but dementia. I have an aunt who has dementia, and I had not seen her in over a year and basically figured out her diagnosis on sight the last time I saw her, because she was so altered from the previous time. Meanwhile, the rest of my family including my uncle, and her brothers and sisters were like "no, she's just a little scattered, she's always been like this, its her blood sugar [she's also diabetic]" etc. etc. I have been telling them literally for YEARS that she needs to get a diagnosis so that she can get early intervention and assistance around the house. It was only in the last couple of months that someone finally took her to the doctor who confirmed everything I'd been telling them

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      Suffersfoolsgladlysaucisson
      12/15/13 6:49pm

      You are absolutely right.

      In alcoholic families, the entire family becomes sick as they adapt to the active member's illness. It is the air they breath and by the time the family comes for treatment, everyone is just as sick as the one who is self-medicating.

      My husband has Dementia and so does my mother.but it is easier for me to gauge her decline because I don't live with her.

      I hope your Auntie is getting the help she needs now!

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    PlantinMoretusMax Rivlin-Nadler
    12/15/13 3:09pm

    So the bombing had nothing to do with terrorism or Islam or hating America.

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      YourMotherWasAHamsterPlantinMoretus
      12/15/13 6:07pm

      They are just posturing for an insanity defense. Wouldn't even worry about it.

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      PlantinMoretusYourMotherWasAHamster
      12/15/13 6:29pm

      I'm more thinking about the next time this sort of thing happens (and it will) the media should (but won't) reflect on this case and not jump to conclusions about motives and agendas.

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    LadyLaLaMax Rivlin-Nadler
    12/15/13 3:21pm

    This whole situation bums me out, even though I'm from Boston. It seems like the older brother was the brains behind the operation, and now the younger brother is going to swing. Adding that the older brother was losing his mind makes it worse.

    The whole situation did a 180 for me when they found the younger one hiding in a boat, like a scared kid who just realized how fucked he was. All day long I was waiting for him to appear and kill a cop or something... nope. Just a college kid at the end of the day. He'll rightfully get locked up forever, but still he's more human than I want him to be.

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      saucissonLadyLaLa
      12/15/13 3:30pm

      What I think the folks in Boston discovered (I live a few streets down from where they grew up) is that our reaction to terrorism is not what we thought it would be, especially when it turns out that the terrorist is one of ours.

      Everyone has lost in this. My heart breaks for his friends, who still love him and have a kind of grief that they probably can't talk about in public without being excoriated. He is as dead to them as if he'd died in that shootout. I hope they know that they're allowed to love him, and miss him, and be sad about their own loss in that regard.

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      gardenvarietyhoseLadyLaLa
      12/15/13 4:29pm

      That's interesting - reading the article, I honestly got the sense that the younger kid was a little bit of a sociopath - with the lying, risk taking, drug dealing etc.

      We probably won't ever know what happened here (and I'm not even really disagreeing with what you wrote) - I've just wondered for some time if the younger one may have egged on or instigated his probably mentally ill older brother.

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    EmanzeMax Rivlin-Nadler
    12/15/13 2:52pm

    Yea. You want to know part of the reason people commit these dreadful crimes? Instant notoriety.

    They get pretty little painted portraits entitled, "The Fall of the House of Tsarnaev"

    All so glammy. Sounds like a HBO hit.

    The shooters, the bombers, the media will lavish attention on them, their relatives, their lives. And, believe me. Someone is taking note. Invisible nobody to notorious with one act.

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      1millburnerEmanze
      12/15/13 3:15pm

      It is a terrible newspaper across the board. Every Sunday I start to read it but after ninety seconds I go for the funnies. I think I only keep the subscription so I can leave a nice tip for the elderly gentleman who drops it off.

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      OverlordoftheGreysEmanze
      12/15/13 3:20pm

      My personal fav was the artist's rendition of the "hot one" drug dealing.

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    buzzkill2014Max Rivlin-Nadler
    12/15/13 3:04pm

    In Boston Tamerlan is known as Speedbump, because, well, you know.

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      saucissonbuzzkill2014
      12/15/13 3:06pm

      No, he isn't.

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      buzzkill2014saucisson
      12/15/13 3:55pm

      Yes, he is:

      http://www.jammiewf.com/2013/speedbump…

      http://blazingcatfur.blogspot.com/2013/09/speedb…

      http://hotair.com/archives/2013/…

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    psychomagnetMax Rivlin-Nadler
    12/15/13 2:39pm

    Just when mental illness was starting to shed some of its negative stigma all these multiple killings by these kind of guys are really ruining the progress.

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      splodindireeahpsychomagnet
      12/15/13 2:47pm

      Wait, are you saying we shouldn't have invaded Iraq?

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      psychomagnetsplodindireeah
      12/15/13 3:05pm

      Well W's mental illness was fairly well hidden from the public. Course it could be a personality disorder which is also "mental illness" but a different animal, for W. He seemed a bit sociopathic to me however. Taking your comment seriously vs. facetiously for the sake of discussion and another chance to dump on Bush.

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    PinkieChienMax Rivlin-Nadler
    12/15/13 4:18pm

    I keep hearing voices too... they all say the same thing: "You're awesome!"

    I can't argue with that.

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      Lady-LoFiMax Rivlin-Nadler
      12/15/13 2:39pm

      The commissioned illustrations for the Boston Globe piece are fucking creepy.

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