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    TheFilthyGoatErin Gloria Ryan
    11/07/13 11:30am

    I get about half way through these articles before my mind just goes blank and I want to be all...

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      The Real UnsharerTheFilthyGoat
      11/07/13 11:42am

      Seconded. The fact that anybody is defending these guys is bad enough. Then, just to make things worse, the epic victim-blaming by the police and a lot of commentators is beyond awful. HULK SMASH.

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      MadPiglet loves West HamTheFilthyGoat
      11/07/13 11:42am

      I have the opposite reaction, which is just... nothing. I am beyond horrified and disgusted that this shit is happening in the world, in 2013 and that the perpetrators are just so cavalier about it. I can't feel ANYTHING. Just... ugh. My brain just shuts off. And that, I think, is even worse than the Loki-bouncing rage.

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    morgainefayErin Gloria Ryan
    11/07/13 11:27am

    THIS.IS.RAPE.CULTURE.

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      Rooo sez BISH PLZmorgainefay
      11/07/13 11:47am

      You'd think folks would have a grip on the concept by now, wouldn't you?

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    ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ : Riot GRRR is RUNNING WILDErin Gloria Ryan
    11/07/13 11:57am
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      THEdarcyhirschʕ•ᴥ•ʔ : Riot GRRR is RUNNING WILD
      11/07/13 12:04pm

      This is like the '90s-ist "go fuck yourself" I've ever seen!

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      epoustouflanteʕ•ᴥ•ʔ : Riot GRRR is RUNNING WILD
      11/07/13 12:07pm

      Oh god yes. A rugrats "fuck you" is exactly what's needed here.

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    Rooo sez BISH PLZErin Gloria Ryan
    11/07/13 11:42am

    "Anonymous tweeted about the boys yesterday along with the hashtag #RoastRapists. Ominous."

    If the NZ police can't be bothered to step up?

    I say "Do your thing, Anonymous."

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      chlorinatorRooo sez BISH PLZ
      11/07/13 11:58am

      Yeah, all of these cases of "rape that didn't matter until the newsmedia picked it up" are really eroding my discomfort with vigilante justice. I know that vigilante stuff has the potential to go to really bad places, that the wrong people can be targeted, that mob mentality can get really scary.

      And yet... I can't see how things like this change otherwise. The legislative system doesn't seem all that helpful - it's slow, AND the laws are already in place. The problem is in the implementation. And how do we get people to think differently if there aren't consequences for just keeping on?

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      Bascelicna2Rooo sez BISH PLZ
      11/07/13 12:12pm

      I love Anonymous. I love them so much.

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    lethekkErin Gloria Ryan
    11/07/13 11:39am

    To every dickbag who defends these guys:

    If you don't get a coherent, sober, and uncoerced 'Yes' from a woman over the FREAKING LEGAL AGE LIMIT, it is rape. Period. Nothing else about the situation matters.

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      NCRlethekk
      11/07/13 1:44pm

      Thank you. I'm losing my mind trying to explain this in another thread. I mean, really? It's not that complicated of a thing to understand.

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    FluterDaleErin Gloria Ryan
    11/07/13 1:26pm

    Is the twerp who posted this implying that it was ok when no one cared? (Or, as I suspect, are they overwhelmed by the amount of attention they got by seeking attention with their misdeeds?)

    Oh, little, little man. My sincere hope is that it gets much, much worse before it gets better.

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      NoraTheRatFluterDale
      11/07/13 3:07pm

      He also seems to have a pretty fucked up concept of "most people".

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      FluterDaleNoraTheRat
      11/07/13 3:17pm

      As he is the center of the known universe, I assume he is referring to most of the people who have opinions of which he is aware. One cannot expect him to be aware of all the opinions. He is very important, and as such, has many more important rapings to commit.

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    WhykatyErin Gloria Ryan
    11/07/13 11:43am

    I still feel so conflicted that my ray of hope in all of this is Anonymous. I don't like them - they have fucked up royally before. But I like them - they care, and if nothing else they will force this to be pursued. It's a weird, weird, scary world.

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      TzaWhykaty
      11/07/13 4:07pm

      With you. They have done shitty stuff, but lately either they want to clean up their image or they just genuinely changed for the better and are seemingly the only ones who do care.

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      Seymour.ButtzWhykaty
      11/07/13 7:05pm

      The difficult thing about Anonymous is that they're not a unified group flying under one banner for one purpose. Different sets of people use the Anonymous name to give an idea of where they're coming from and the sort of tactics they'll be willing to use.

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    margaritajardinErin Gloria Ryan
    11/07/13 11:44am

    I know that fiction is fiction and doesn't correlate directly to real life BUT I thought Jane Campion's "Top of the Lake" series was a very sobering portrayal of the horrific rape culture in a small NZ town.

    The terrible police reaction to this "Rape Club" has me starting to think that Campion was making a pretty salient point on New Zealand's troubling attitude/dismissal of rape victims. Any other "Top of the Lake" fans see the similarities?

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      chlorinatormargaritajardin
      11/07/13 12:03pm

      I started watching that series while I was furloughed during the shutdown. It was so good, but it was not helping the fact that I was feeling depressed what with not having anything useful to go do with myself, so I stopped. I should watch the rest of it now.

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      VicLNZmargaritajardin
      11/07/13 12:27pm

      I have, for many years, worked in services in New Zealand that look after victims of sexual violence. There are high rates of sexual violence in New Zealand. According to a WHO report, the rate in New Zealand is similar (or slightly lower) than the US. Many people do not report, or disclose years post the events. This is the case worldwide. I can honestly say that the New Zealand police have been trying extremely hard over the past few years to improve their response to sexual violence. This very unfortunate incident will be thoroughly investigated. Top of the Lake was fiction, albeit in a much more beautiful setting than parts of West Auckland.

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    benjaminalloverErin Gloria Ryan
    11/07/13 12:09pm

    Funny how all these cases where girls are assaulted on film, where men brag about rape on social media, where they confess to 'sex' with someone under the age of consent, still get dismissed over and over again for "lack of evidence".

    What do you have to do these days to be arrested for this kind of shit? I guess do it in front of a police officer, on tape, with 3 notarized witnesses?

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      Anne42benjaminallover
      11/07/13 1:49pm

      I'm not sure they actually filmed the assaults, just themselves bragging about it afterwards.

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      benjaminalloverAnne42
      11/07/13 2:06pm

      I didn't mean to suggest that, i was talking more generally, not all those things apply to this specific case.

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    oneironaurErin Gloria Ryan
    11/07/13 11:34am

    I WONDER if it would have been taken seriously if they were raping young men.

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      Xenvozoneironaur
      11/07/13 12:40pm

      You know? The sad thing is I don't think it would have EVER come to light then. Rape is so ingrained into our culture as "a thing that happens to women" and victim blaming and the perceived loss of masculinity that none of the victims would ever come forward.

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      LesNessmanoneironaur
      11/07/13 12:44pm

      I've been wondering the same thing. Would "they" say that a 13 year old boy was asking for it?

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