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    butter-wrapped suedeAdrian Chen
    11/12/13 2:32pm

    One of the most interesting reporting pieces I've read in Gawker in...probably forever.

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      DoctorNinebutter-wrapped suede
      11/12/13 3:06pm

      I was thinking the same thing. Journalism, what a concept.

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      Hamilton Nolanbutter-wrapped suede
      11/12/13 3:40pm

      Indeed.

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    Zoey NovaAdrian Chen
    11/12/13 2:51pm

    Former NSA analyst here and holy shit this article is awesome.

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      John CookZoey Nova
      11/12/13 3:46pm

      If you're really an ex-NSA analyst, please get in touch. john@gawker.com. It would be fun to chat.

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      Zoey NovaJohn Cook
      11/12/13 3:55pm

      k

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    SiphanAdrian Chen
    11/12/13 2:27pm

    Good story,

    It is really interesting to me to see the degree to which those leftist suppression programs have worked. How there were literally marxists arguing with trotskyists about reformism and liberalism. Now the best we get is liberals buying wholefoods and 'concious capitalism.' Jesus we are fucked when it comes to the limits to growth as a species.

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      BlatheringSiphan
      11/12/13 2:50pm

      I'll echo your "good story" and join in the head shaking about suppression.

      When I was a kid, and admittedly I was an oddly serious and worried child, I was scared of nuclear war and/or the Soviets. Judging by Red Dawn and The Day After, I guess I wasn't alone in my fears. I laid awake some nights just scared the world was going to end. Now more and more we learn that the threat was pretty much an advert campaign for arms manufacturers and defense contractors, including the intelligence community, to keep the funds rolling in.

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    soniciguanaAdrian Chen
    11/12/13 3:46pm

    Great story, probably the best thing I've ever read on Gawker. What strikes me now, and has always struck me about activists — especially those from the 60s/70s — is the immense personal toll that has happened as a result of their taking a stance. It's clear that the emotions of Fellwock, Porter, and others are still so raw and real, no matter the passage of time. The 60s gets glossed over with a lot of stupid shit, but there were some core people and groups who took extremely principled stances (some of them quite misguided and with terrible consequences), who's efforts helped to move a needle, and who often paid with their lives or sanity. It's always a little humbling to read about. Thanks for writing this, Adrian.

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      RunningOutOfBurnJokesAdrian Chen
      11/12/13 2:05pm

      Won't someone give these guys the credit they deserve?

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        keverdeneRunningOutOfBurnJokes
        11/12/13 2:26pm

        YES. Thank you. I am stunned that this movie isn't more well known.

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      epimetheusAdrian Chen
      11/12/13 2:13pm

      Thank you so much for this reporting Adrian, this was amazing to read.

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        kingcaiiAdrian Chen
        11/12/13 1:56pm

        The start of this article sounds just like the beginning of one of the Bourne Identity novels. The brownstone you describe sounds the same as Treadstone HQ

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          SnaabinAdrian Chen
          11/12/13 3:24pm

          Wow, fantastic story guys. I come to gawker to get my "justified rage-asaurus" on but found today leaving with a mighty dose of reflection. this article really comes high on the "Best articles Gawker has ever written (and that Snaabin has read)"

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            doug-porterAdrian Chen
            11/13/13 4:56pm

            I thought you did an excellent job, short of writing a book on the subject. I do want to add to what was said (by me) about forgiveness, or lack thereof. Your contact with me in researching this story brought up a lot of anger that I'd suppressed for years. It spilled out in the emails I sent the author.

            I forgive you Perry Fellwock, even as you're trying to explain your actions by claiming you'd thought or been told I'd advocated violence, an accusation that I was unaware of until contact with the author of this article.

            Whatever.

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              Perry Fellwockdoug-porter
              11/14/13 8:42pm

              Adrian Chen has written a very good example of a 1st person feature piece and I think he has managed to escape the tendency towards narcissism which is all too common in this once taboo form of journalism that prefers presenting emotional experience rather than the cold hard news. But I do wish that he had written more of a history of my radical life and the achievements, as well of the disappointments of the Movement, which I was part of, to achieve peace and justice in the late 60s and early 70s. I regret that he and Doug Porter brought up conflicts which occurred towards the end of CounterSpy and the Fifth Estate as I never considered them important to the struggle against the overreach and often stupid actions of the national security agencies. We all know what we did back then and I for one seek no forgiveness for what I did. I hope that everyone I struggled with back in the day are leading good and happy lives today. You all deserve it for what we went through. I am not political active today and have no desire to be, but in retrospect, I still say the important thing is that brave people of our generation, Doug, came forward and opposed Jim Crow and racism, the war in South East Asia, military juntas in Europe and Latin America, colonization in Africa and the military-intelligence-industrial complex and an Imperial Presidency here at home. For those of you who fear that this blog article is subtlety repressive of whistle blowing, I say that I do not know the politics of Gawker or Mr. Chen but I do believe that there will always be people of conscious in the military and the intelligence community and other parts of government who will come forward and tell the American people that the emperor has no clothes, that the government is committing crimes, and the Constitution is being violated. The most fleeting thing in the world is a government secret especially when the government is in the wrong. As for those of you who are over-reading Chen's reference to me giving him some information to read, I merely suggested some books that anyone should be able to find online or in your public library as well as the records of the Church and Pike committees. The abuses of power by the NSA and the CIA have been known for the past 30 plus years but you all just forgot about them until wikileaks and Snowden. It is up to today's young people to decide how much of Big Brother and wars for empire they can take and what they are going to do about it now.

              Perry Fellwock

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              Adrian Chendoug-porter
              11/16/13 5:45pm

              Thanks for your comment, Doug!

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            MontoviroAdrian Chen
            8/16/16 10:49am

            “Who knows about your boss, what kind of deals he’s doing?”

            Exactamente.

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