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    djbaconphatJ.K. Trotter
    10/30/13 12:06pm

    that link doesnt work..

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      J.K. Trotterdjbaconphat
      10/30/13 12:12pm

      Which one?

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      djbaconphatJ.K. Trotter
      10/30/13 12:23pm

      Gawker’s Nitasha Tiku reported
      Did Rebekah Brooks Fuck Rupert Murdoch and His Son Lachlan? Did Rebekah Brooks Fuck Rupert Murdoch and His Son Lachlan? Did Rebekah Brooks Fuck Rupert Murdoch and His…

      The long-awaited criminal trial of former News of the World editors Rebekah Brooks and Andy… Read more Read more

      sorry should have included..but i am in the UK so that could be the issue.

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    sdfkluioergernvservfninerJ.K. Trotter
    10/30/13 11:51am

    "... the shouty British tabloid allegedly engaged in extralegal practices of gathering information, including hacking the voicemail passwords of people in the news..."

    Pardon my ignorance, but I always thought that "extralegal" meant "out of the jurisdiction of a the law," or somehow out of reach of whatever legal authority was in question. Am I wrong on this?

    If I'm wrong here, I'm happy to be corrected. Because right now, to my ear, it just sounds like you're trying to use "extralegal" as a euphemism for "illegal" because they haven't been convicted yet. But I think we can safely say that phone hacking, bribery, and all the other fun stuff they did is pretty damn illegal, and they simply haven't been convicted of doing those things just yet.

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      apeshapedmansdfkluioergernvservfniner
      10/30/13 11:56am
      ex·tra·le·gal
      ˌekstrəˈlēgəl/
      adjective
      adjective: extralegal; adjective: extra-legal
      1.
      (of an action or situation) beyond the authority of the law; not regulated by the law.

      You're right.

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      J.K. Trottersdfkluioergernvservfniner
      10/30/13 12:00pm

      Oh, I used that term in the same way I would use “lawless”—that is, occurring outside of clearly authorized ways of information gathering. This can mean illegal, but I’m not sure if we’re at the point where that’s 100% clear. (And we might be at that point! I could be wrong!)

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    gigglesticksJ.K. Trotter
    10/30/13 11:56am

    Aw, they're wearing their Remembrance Day pins — extra early.

    For those not familiar, this is the British Empire equivalent of wearing an American flag pin, but about 1000 times more revolting and cynical.

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      Gemmabetagigglesticks
      10/30/13 12:02pm

      I believe they make these for people like you.

      And it's the Commonwealth, mmkay?

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      VirilityUntoTheegigglesticks
      10/30/13 12:06pm

      Goatse in repose?

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    Sean BrodyJ.K. Trotter
    10/30/13 12:05pm

    It's worth noting that the practice was widespread and that the public attitude was that it was being done only to famous people, who more or less had it coming.

    They crossed a line in perception when they did it to Milly Dowler.

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      raincoasterJ.K. Trotter
      10/30/13 7:36pm

      And don't forget the longstanding rumour that Brooks had an affair with Blair when he was PM.

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        willburnforfoodJ.K. Trotter
        10/30/13 11:56am

        Can someone explain how Piers Morgan has avoided charges? Are the authorities hoping someone will roll over and implicate more people involved in the spying operation? I just really want to see him in prison.

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          apeshapedmanJ.K. Trotter
          10/30/13 11:52am

          I love that wild, red hair. If only it wasn't attached to such a horrible shrew.

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            dannywoodheadapeshapedman
            10/30/13 12:04pm

            Sounds like said shrew need taming, no?

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            apeshapedmandannywoodhead
            10/30/13 12:15pm

            No thank you.

            Sticking your dick in a hornet's nest is a young man's game.

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          iElvis is Putting in a Bid for Gawker.comJ.K. Trotter
          10/30/13 12:05pm

          Completely off topic, but I wish lawyers in the US got to dress up for court the way barristers in the UK do. Arguing over petty discovery disputes would be a lot more fun wearing a wig.

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            ziggyunderslashoneiElvis is Putting in a Bid for Gawker.com
            10/30/13 12:27pm

            They discuss doing away with them every now and then, but it's always thrown out on the basis that it lends them a certain level of anonymity outside of the court setting.

            In reality I suspect it's more an affection for wigs.

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          ScalfinJ.K. Trotter
          10/30/13 12:00pm

          This is why every Murdoch media editorial or statement against the NSA should include the sentence "don't you know invading privacy is our job?"

          Honestly, the same should be said of every media outlet's opposition to the NSA.

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            kemperboydJ.K. Trotter
            10/30/13 3:52pm

            I could take all of the celebrity stalking, hacking shit as immoral as it is but the fact they hacked the messages of a missing child is the part that makes me hope they all end up in prison for a long long time. To have listened to the voicemails of her parents as they grew more concerned and to delete some messages so that the inbox wasn't full and they could listen to more in future is a lack of basic empathy on a worrying level. There was a day or two when Milly Dowler's parents, sister and friends had hope she was alive because she had been listening to and deleting messages. Scum.

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