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Jeff SweetNeetzan Zimmerman
10/04/13 5:03pm
If he has data that shows that their average woman student needed 5 more classes than how is this discrimination?
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  QuarteredpounderJeff Sweet
  10/04/13 5:08pm
  That the female students took five extra lessons just shows that they wanted to be more prepared than their male counterparts.
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  Jeff SweetQuarteredpounder
  10/04/13 5:17pm
  While that is one way of looking at it is not the simplest way and the simple solution is often the correct one. I imagine this driving school has a test, or set of standards that must be met. It would be odd for them to let the students determine when they have finished the course. For instance, obtaining the license.
  
  The company is saying women took longer to obtain the license because they could not pass the exam. It is not discrimination if there is a height limit on a ride for safety is it?
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KrungNeetzan Zimmerman
10/04/13 5:03pm
Welcome, Jezebel. Have fun!
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  ad infinitumKrung
  10/04/13 5:22pm
  It's always bizarre to me how many Gawker commenters have no idea that there is significant crossover between Gawker and Jezebel, and that many regular commenters here are also regulars there. Honest to god, you don't need to welcome us. We're here all the time.
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  Krungad infinitum
  10/04/13 5:23pm
  I know...I was trying to...jokes? It's a joke. Welcome, Jezebel!
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msjessiemeghanNeetzan Zimmerman
10/04/13 5:11pm
But women also get into less accidents? So there's that. I guess women are EXTRA careful, so maybe a few more lessons just to have that confidence to get into less accidents than men.
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  archiducmsjessiemeghan
  10/04/13 5:24pm
  <fewer accidents>
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  Caspermsjessiemeghan
  10/04/13 5:34pm
  That's actually a myth.. partially. They do in total have fewer accidents, but it's not true per mile driven. Men on average drive many more miles per year than woman. If you compensate for the discrepancy they are very close and woman have many more fender benders.
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CommonVicesNeetzan Zimmerman
10/04/13 5:12pm
Where I grew up in Virginia, you got your driver's license at an actual courthouse. Groups of sixteen-year-old kids would go before a judge, and he would give a little spiel about safe driving and the responsibilities inherent in being a motorist, and then a clerk would hand everyone their licenses.

When I turned sixteen and went to the courthouse to receive my license, the judge gave all of the assembled teenagers a generic lecture, and then he said, "This next part is just for the young ladies who are receiving their licenses today. I know your driving instructor told you to always allow the car in front of you one car length of distance for every ten miles per hour that you're driving. That's fine for the boys, but I want you girls to double that distance...because you'll need it."

No one said anything at the time because, y'know, HOLY CRAP WHO CARES WE'RE GETTING OUR LICENSES WOOOO, but in retrospect...wow.
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EasttoMidwestNeetzan Zimmerman
10/04/13 5:20pm
Riiiight. That's why women (at least in the US and UK) pay less for car insurance: because they're involved in fewer accidents.

Maybe they should just force the young men to take those five extra classes, regardless.
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  MaximumLikelihoodEasttoMidwest
  10/05/13 1:55am
  I think the real travesty is that anyone would need to pay $900+ to get driving lessons. I had free driving instructors: mom and dad, and they didn't put up with any shit.
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  MPPPPPPEasttoMidwest
  10/06/13 8:43am
  Thats all changed now. New laws.
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ratchedNeetzan Zimmerman
10/04/13 6:01pm
We're only worse drivers because we're on our period for about 4-5 days a month (and WOW, those hormones before and after our periods.) and then menopause. Plus we're always thinking about shoes, babies, and new fall lipstick colors. Cars have grease in them and they're so ickky!
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  kerfuffle-truffleshuffleratched
  10/04/13 6:24pm
  lol'd
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wkiernanNeetzan Zimmerman
10/04/13 5:36pm
I really don't know about how they drive over there in Spain (except that I do know that as they drive they traditionally shout "¡Andale, andale!" out the open windows of their Biscuters) but here in the U.S.A. it is a fact that women, especially younger women, pay much lower rates for car insurance, and the insurers set those rates not based on the relative sex appeal of the various classes of their clientele, but on the basis of cold, hard actuarial statistics.
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  KittyCwkiernan
  10/04/13 7:34pm
  smiling Brit living in Spain here and Spanish driving (as a rule) is; male drivers - dangerous & aggressive, female drivers - dangerous & terrible (really, really terrible!) and old drivers - dangerous, life threateningly slow, truly terrifying & completely oblivious! And they all, of course, merrily call ¡Andales! as they jauntily reverse into your car... ¡Viva España!
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DoctorNineNeetzan Zimmerman
10/04/13 6:22pm
This will not end well...

GIF

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VeryWellNeetzan Zimmerman
10/04/13 5:15pm
Not sure about Spanish car insurance rates, but over here aren't women's rates generally cheaper than men's? We understand what this means, no? Fewer accidents/incidents so statistically, women are better drivers.
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  JoGirl310VeryWell
  10/04/13 5:36pm
  Yes! In fact, per capita, men are involved in fully twice as many road fatalities as their female counterparts. Meanwhile, you'll still hear quite a few men claim that women are the worse drivers because on average women get into slightly more minor fender-benders than men do. Call me crazy, but I think it stands to reason that more fatalities = worse driving, regardless of differences in fine dexterity.
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  MLeeBrownJoGirl310
  10/04/13 5:46pm
  I think it's the same principle as suicide. Women tend to have more accidents, but they are minor and inexpensive and people usually walk away, while the accidents men tend to get in are less frequent but more violent and destructive, and somebody usually dies. And booze is often a factor. That's my impression, I could be wrong.
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Sovereign-StateNeetzan Zimmerman
10/04/13 5:33pm
As a woman who is a MUCH better driver than her male s/o - I think it needs to be on a person by person basis. (My s/o has lost three oil pans in the past two years because he never sees dips or speed bumps.) Some dudes are shitty drivers, and so are some women - lumping an entire gender together is dumb.

Also - Despite my ovarian "handicap", I can also repair most of my own car.
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  ThisIsntHappeningSovereign-State
  10/04/13 5:40pm
  You mean, treat people as individuals?
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  Wheezer801Sovereign-State
  10/04/13 6:30pm
  Agreed. I am an owner of lady parts and a MUCH better driver than my husband. So much so that I drive 99% of the time when we go anywhere. He freely admits I'm a better driver than he is - he's a nervous wreck when he drives. He barely goes the speed limit, he white-knuckles the steering wheel when he has to change lanes, and if I do something like mention his turn is coming up (which he never seems to notice), he gets even more jittery and will do dumb things like slam on the breaks on in the middle of the road because he's scared he's doing something wrong (seriously, is he trying to get us killed???)
  
  As an aside - We only have one car (we're poor) and even though I grew up driving stick, we ended up getting an automatic after my old car (stick, obvs) died. Took him a year to learn to drive the damn thing and he never enjoyed it (how, I don't know - driving a stick is the best.) We've had the new car for almost a year now and every time I get in it I'm sad. I miss my old car. :(
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