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Sean BrodyHamilton Nolan
10/02/13 11:57am
Is it too little water OR too many people?

Dun dun dun!
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  DarkmanexrebornSean Brody
  10/02/13 12:03pm
  Too many mouths. This is what world war is for, to thin the pop a little, but thanks to nukes and new wep technology, a world war means everybody dead.
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  thehoopoe3Darkmanexreborn
  10/02/13 12:10pm
  I thought that was what the plague was for. If it weren't for epidemics this water situ would have happened centuries ago.
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spaced99Hamilton Nolan
10/02/13 12:00pm
I'm all for doing away with suburban America's insistence on having large green lawns, front and back. There's nothing wrong with doing it the Arizona way and having nice rock-based landscaping. We as a nation must not be saying "get off my lawn" but "get off my rocks" going forward.
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  GreyEminencespaced99
  10/02/13 12:13pm
  "Get off my rocks." That's my second-favourite permutation of those words!
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  AFookinRocketScientistspaced99
  10/02/13 12:21pm
  Uh greenery is pretty natural down south. No artificial desert grass here. We are in a sub-tropical climate.
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tektwoHamilton Nolan
10/02/13 12:13pm
I really don't get why we don't invest more heavily in desalination, there is some pretty amazing stuff the Israelis and Saudis have been working on... The efficiency is sky rocketing and the yields are pretty impressive, combine that with the fact that they are introducing solar and trying for better electrochemical cells it's a no brainer.

I really don't get it...
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  cantlogindamnugawker346tektwo
  10/02/13 12:18pm
  When push comes definitively to shove I bet they'll be all over this technology (which I did not know existed in any efficient form so thank you for posting that it has made me feel a bit better).
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  sirgalahadthechastetektwo
  10/02/13 12:51pm
  Well even though it is becoming more efficient it is still quite expensive and takes a lot of energy/resources. Even as it develops a smaller "footprint" there is the issue of marine life killed in the intake/outtake, small organisms essential to the food chain make it through certain filters and die/decay and are unable to be reintroduced, which can really mess up the oceans.
  
  Surface intake plants do address some of these issues but there is the huge issue of the brine. Dumping a lot of heavy/salty water into the ocean is terrible for the marine ecosystem and large scale plants will have so much brine left over.
  
  There are also many harmful and toxic byproducts of the process including chlorine and heavy metals.
  
  The privatization and commodification of water resources is also problematic, and issues of water quality and safety. Introducing a large number of chemical plants by the shoreline will negatively effect marine life, fisheries economies, etc.
  
  I'm not trying to be completely negative and we do have huge water issues we need to address, and I like the idea of novel solutions. But these are some of the reasons that it is taking so long to implement and the regulatory issues these plants face in europe and the US.
  
  And on a large scale, if every country develops desalination plants, I think it would just fuck up they water cycle and oceans even more. I think we need to do a better job of not wasting water, developing more sustainable agro practices, and working on the issue of distribution, and getting over the obsession with green lawns before just taking water from the ocean. I just think there is this false misconception that it is a "magic" solution and limitless resource just like we have thought with many other animals and resources that we eventually completely depleted or destroyed.
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fsudoopsHamilton Nolan
10/02/13 12:00pm
I always liked your writing until today. That "Go Gators" comment ruined it. You're dead to me now.
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paging_dr_nickHamilton Nolan
10/02/13 11:58am
It pisses me off that there are other options available for folks (like tampa has a huge water desalination plant that they don't really utilize) but areas are still being sucked dry and routed to other regions and states. This is a really big problem and as far as FL goes, Rick Scott hasn't done dick for any environmental concerns - only crony/financial issues so far.
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araucaniadHamilton Nolan
10/02/13 9:51pm
I think you mean "draught", not "drought", of precious water to sustain life for one more hardscrabble day in the nasty, brutish, and short future ahead of us.
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Cristobal JuntaHamilton Nolan
10/02/13 12:37pm
This is great news for my plan to sell Pennsylvania's excess rainfall to the South and Southwest.
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SchenkersAxeHamilton Nolan
10/02/13 12:04pm
Given dwindling water resources (to say nothing of the possible connection to earthquakes), how can fracking still be a thing?
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  badlyscarredSchenkersAxe
  10/02/13 12:10pm
  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ big oil ************ greed $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ lack of ability to see what they are doing is going to destroy that area for many many years if not centuries with massive polution $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Climate Change Deniers $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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  Ara_RichardsSchenkersAxe
  10/02/13 12:14pm
  Fracking has what plants need.
  
  GIF
  
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A. Nonie MeusHamilton Nolan
10/02/13 12:03pm
Just wait til things come to a head in the southwest between California, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, and Colorado.

I live in a pretty lush part of the West Coast but even here, there isn't enough fresh water to go around and the big push now is to build numerous large, energy-sucking, polluting desalination plants.
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  Sheeeeeeit-ClayDavisA. Nonie Meus
  10/02/13 12:05pm
  I think Boulder, CO will be fine on water for quite a while.
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  A. Nonie MeusSheeeeeeit-ClayDavis
  10/02/13 12:10pm
  Too bad you can't drink fetid, dirty, disease-ridden flood water!
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keeplosingburnersHamilton Nolan
10/02/13 11:57am
Yes, but we'll also have Tank Girl. So that's a plus.
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