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    My dear, sweet brother Numsie!Katie J.M. Baker
    10/01/13 11:01am

    Its a sharp metal spring that they jam into your fallopian tube... So that scar tissue can form around it and block the tube.

    I'd like to know what the hell are the Doctors saying to women to convince them this is safe and not painful? Because thats gotta be some sort of Jedi level used car salesmanship mindtrick shit coming out of their mouths.

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      onthetopofmysocalledheartMy dear, sweet brother Numsie!
      10/01/13 11:07am

      I'm not especially squeamish, but that almost looks medieval. I'm all for modern medicine and of course some things are going to sound and look painful, but with that visual illustration, this method would be a hard sell for me.

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      pugbugMy dear, sweet brother Numsie!
      10/01/13 11:10am

      Ow. Fuck. Jesus Christ. No. Just GOD NO!

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    LaComtesseKatie J.M. Baker
    10/01/13 10:47am

    Ummm... am I a complete asshole for kind of agreeing with Bayer here?

    "“No form of birth control is without risk or should be considered appropriate for every woman. It is important that women discuss the risks and benefits of any birth control option with their physicians.”"

    If pain is an established risk, even though it seems to affect less than 1% of people, don't just assume it's made up—take the warnings seriously. And if you ARE suffering tremendously—again, not all medications/procedures/etc work for everyone—take that shit out and work with your provider to find something different. A lot of people will search for years for their perfect course of treatment for depression/anxiety/whatever. Inconvenient, unfortunate... but them's the breaks with medicine.

    Is there something I'm missing?

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      Seminal ColonLaComtesse
      10/01/13 10:50am

      I agree with you. Don't mind being an asshole in this case.

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      GemmabetaLaComtesse
      10/01/13 10:52am

      According to the article, Bayer has recently (successfully) petitioned the FDA for a relaxation of the warning labels and scaled back nickel allergy testing requirements pre-implantation. Which opens them up for a lawsuit (otherwise, I doubt Brockovich would be taking up the suit).

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    HermioneStrangerKatie J.M. Baker
    10/01/13 11:03am

    That's not surprising, given that it works by scratching your tubes until they scar over so much the eggs can't get through.

    (Why are we calling sterilization "permanent birth control"?)

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      LaComtesseHermioneStranger
      10/01/13 11:37am

      Do you have an objection with the term in general? Just curious.

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      HermioneStrangerLaComtesse
      10/01/13 12:03pm

      It just seemed to be downplaying it and being a bit evasive about it. Sort of like when people can't say the word "abortion" but can only speak vaguely of "choice." And I can't imagine it would go over well to say that North Carolina gave thousands of poor black women permanent birth control up until the 1970s. But maybe I'm just being a bit jumpy.

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    pharaohsbonesKatie J.M. Baker
    10/01/13 10:26am

    mirena IUD all the way

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      My dear, sweet brother Numsie!pharaohsbones
      10/01/13 11:15am

      I had one of those. It was awesome, till it failed :( But thats just me, worst luck ever with this sort of thing.

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      Not here anymorepharaohsbones
      10/01/13 11:56am

      Nope. Mine tore a hole in my uterus, causing an infection that nearly killed me on my honeymoon. Nothing is completely risk-free.

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    Mary MacksKatie J.M. Baker
    10/01/13 10:33am

    Wait, wtf. Can any legal Jezzies explain to me why these women can't sue Bayer?

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      GemmabetaMary Macks
      10/01/13 10:37am

      According to the article:

      ...federal law prevents them from suing Bayer because FDA-approved products are generally protected from liability unless there is evidence of fraud.

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      Mary MacksGemmabeta
      10/01/13 10:40am

      Thanks, sometimes I should do my due diligence before I ask a question. It still doesn't seem very fair, though.

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    alboKatie J.M. Baker
    10/01/13 10:53am

    Erin Brockovich is the living embodiment of "correlation does not imply causation."

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      I'd eat a spideralbo
      10/01/13 12:23pm

      If I could like this a million times, I would.

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    StytchKatie J.M. Baker
    10/01/13 11:00am

    Have these. Do not hurt. But it was clearly stated as a risk, and then the doc explained that if that happened, they'd just take them out. Boom. No big deal. *shrug*

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      singsangsungStytch
      10/01/13 11:38am

      How would they remove it? I imagine there's a very short window of opportunity there? Obviously waiting a year was not a wise thing for this woman to do, anyway. But wouldn't it be hard to tell if the pain you were experiencing a few days later as your tubes scar over is normal or not?

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      TiredAndSleepyStytch
      10/01/13 11:52am

      What is the procedure for taking them out though? Looks like it would be a pretty major surgery once scar tissue started to grow through the device.

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    TheGipperChristKatie J.M. Baker
    10/01/13 11:00am

    Full disclosure here - I've had Essure done, and honestly, it's one of the few procedures I *didn't* have any issues with. As to be expected, I was in pain the day after the procedure, and the only other time I felt pain related to it was when they tested to see if it "took." (They basically stick a balloon in your fallopian tubes, blow it up and try to shove dye through the tube to see if there is still an opening. It's not pleasant, but it's over quickly).

    I hope this turns out that Essure is OK - it's a procedure I recommend to everyone seeking permanent birth control because it worked so well for me and was so easy.

    Now Novasure on the other hand...fuck that shit.

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      guest_ageTheGipperChrist
      10/01/13 11:53am

      Really? I had a Novasure done, and so did my mom. Absolutely no pain and I was doing laundry the same day as the procedure. Haven't had a single period since.

      (Not using it for birth control, though, since it's...not birth control. In fact, when my mom and I had it done, our doctors went out of their way to make sure we understood we had to have some other form of birth control going, since we could still technically get pregnant, but not carry it to term.)

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      TheGipperChristguest_age
      10/01/13 2:41pm

      Yeah, it didn't take for me and it was excruciatingly painful. To make matters worse (ALERT! major TMI time here), I developed a scar tissue from it near my cervix, so almost every time I have intercourse it looks like I suffered a miscarriage. But, I knew there was a chance it wouldn't work and there would be side effects, so to be fair...

      I'm glad to hear it worked for someone though! I'm sure it's worked for many, but it's nice to hear from actual people.

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    KishKatie J.M. Baker
    10/01/13 10:52am

    I just read about this product and my organs began to spasm.

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